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vince
10th July 2005, 18:44
ok , se defender legge ancora sto forum avra' di che essere contento.

ora lo ammetto anche io , l'holy tree al 90% e inutile....
a questo punto voglio fare a meno di castrarmi, datemi qualche consiglio per fare un buon template da guaritore(quindi principale disc) ero indeciso se raggiungere 26 in disc o 31 per il buff di spirito, sono ancora indeciso , ci vorrebbe qualcuno piu esperto di me in istance per dirmi se il rec di mana con un template 31 spirito e tanto superiore da meritare.

a voi

Tomb
10th July 2005, 19:23
boh se devi fare disc/holy prendilo anche tanto arrivi cmq a prendere i talent di holy che "meritano"
nn ti cambiera' sto granche' se devi fare tipo strat scholo dm e ubrs ma se devi fare molten core con gente seria spirito alto serve eccome... e indossa una bella devout che come dicono sulle board e' appositamente disegnata x mc (e qua si ride...faccio pve per avere un armor....che e' studiata per fare altro pve?-_-)

vince
10th July 2005, 21:31
togliendo di mezzo mc(manca gente seria per ora e per allora avro soldi a pacchi per il respec(anche ad un gold a giorno ne avro' tanti per allora)) un template disc/shadow come lo si vede?

Tomb
11th July 2005, 02:36
disc/shadow come curatore .. dipende quanto vuoi mettere in shadow, io almeno 21 ce lo metterei.. quindi boh o un 30/21 con disc fino a meditation o un piu' funzionale trispec classico 9/21/21 dipende dalle preferenze :P anche se cmq shadow a meno di 21 nn so quanto senso abbia

vince
11th July 2005, 09:36
dici che il 9/21/21 funziona come healer?

Pic STK
11th July 2005, 09:41
hai voglia se funziona, penso che il tp 9 21 21 sia il + equilibrato di tutti, tanto mana, ottime utility e danno del shadow, ottime cure visto che maxi gli unici 2 talenti decenti di holy (va bhe spiritual heakling sta a 4, ma un 2% sulle cure non cambia la vita)

Tomb
11th July 2005, 11:21
ci curi alla perfezione :D

Serfinor
11th July 2005, 12:15
il tp piu' equilibrato anche secondo me

vince
11th July 2005, 12:44
Ok mo tocca definire la forma, ammetto di essere assolutamente ignorante del ramo shadow , quindi il template lo costruito nel ottica del risparmio di mana,

Discipline Talents (21 points)


Unbreakable Will - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to resist Stun, Fear, and Silence effects by 15%.


Martyrdom - 2/2 points
Gives you a 100% chance to gain the Focused Casting effect that lasts for 6 seconds after being the victim of a critical strike. The Focused Casting effect prevents you from losing casting time when taking damage.


Improved Power Word: Shield - 3/3 points
Reduces the duration of your Power Word: Shield's Weakened Soul effect by 15 seconds.


Improved Power Word: Fortitude - 2/2 points
Increases the effect of your Power Word: Fortitude spell by 30%.


Focused Casting - 1/1 point
While active, you no longer lose casting time from taking damage. Lasts 8 seconds.


Mental Agility - 5/5 points
Reduces the mana cost of your instant cast spells by 10%.


Mental Strength - 2/5 points
Increases your maximum Mana by 4%.


Inner Focus - 1/1 point
When activated, reduces the Mana cost of your next spell by 100% and increases its critical effect chance by 25% if it is capable of a critical effect.



Holy Talents (9 points)


Holy Specialization - 5/5 points
Increases the critical effect chance of your Holy spells by 5%.


Spiritual Healing - 4/5 points
Increases the amount healed by your healing spells by 8%.



Shadow Talents (21 points)


Spirit Tap - 5/5 points
Gives you a 100% chance to gain a 100% bonus to your Spirit after killing a target. For the duration, your Mana may regenerate at a 50% rate while casting. Lasts 15 seconds.


Blackout - 5/5 points
Gives your Shadow damage spells a 10% chance to stun the target for 3 seconds.


Improved Psychic Scream - 2/2 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Psychic Scream ability by 4 seconds.


Mind Flay - 1/1 point
Assault the target's mind with Shadow energy, causing 75 damage over 3 seconds and slowing the target to 50% of their movement speed.


Improved Mind Blast - 2/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Mind Blast spell by 1 second.


Improved Fade - 2/2 points
Increases the duration of your Fade ability by 10 seconds.


Shadow Reach - 3/3 points
Increases the range of your Shadow damage spells by 20%.


Silence - 1/1 point
Silence the target, preventing them from casting spells for 5 seconds.

fatemi sapere.

vince
11th July 2005, 12:49
anche se personalmente il miglior curatore che si possa formare da un tri-spec dovrebbe essere questo

Discipline Talents (24 points)


Unbreakable Will - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to resist Stun, Fear, and Silence effects by 15%.


Martyrdom - 2/2 points
Gives you a 100% chance to gain the Focused Casting effect that lasts for 6 seconds after being the victim of a critical strike. The Focused Casting effect prevents you from losing casting time when taking damage.


Improved Power Word: Shield - 3/3 points
Reduces the duration of your Power Word: Shield's Weakened Soul effect by 15 seconds.


Improved Power Word: Fortitude - 2/2 points
Increases the effect of your Power Word: Fortitude spell by 30%.


Focused Casting - 1/1 point
While active, you no longer lose casting time from taking damage. Lasts 8 seconds.


Mental Agility - 5/5 points
Reduces the mana cost of your instant cast spells by 10%.


Mental Strength - 5/5 points
Increases your maximum Mana by 10%.


Inner Focus - 1/1 point
When activated, reduces the Mana cost of your next spell by 100% and increases its critical effect chance by 25% if it is capable of a critical effect.



Holy Talents (10 points)


Holy Specialization - 5/5 points
Increases the critical effect chance of your Holy spells by 5%.


Spiritual Healing - 5/5 points
Increases the amount healed by your healing spells by 10%.



Shadow Talents (17 points)


Spirit Tap - 5/5 points
Gives you a 100% chance to gain a 100% bonus to your Spirit after killing a target. For the duration, your Mana may regenerate at a 50% rate while casting. Lasts 15 seconds.


Blackout - 5/5 points
Gives your Shadow damage spells a 10% chance to stun the target for 3 seconds.


Improved Psychic Scream - 2/2 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Psychic Scream ability by 4 seconds.


Mind Flay - 1/1 point
Assault the target's mind with Shadow energy, causing 75 damage over 3 seconds and slowing the target to 50% of their movement speed.


Improved Mind Blast - 2/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Mind Blast spell by 1 second.


Improved Fade - 2/2 points
Increases the duration of your Fade ability by 10 seconds.

come vedete non si arriva proprio a silence, ovviamente questo template sarebbe solo pve(per ora non mi serve un template per quello) (sigh)

dato che secondo me improved fade fa 100 volte di piu di quello che fa subtlety . cmq dai parliamone

Pic STK
11th July 2005, 13:52
premetto che io sono un preist da grp per pvp sopratutto, ma che me la cavo benissimo anke in pve...

il mio tp è:Discipline Talents (21 points)


Unbreakable Will - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to resist Stun, Fear, and Silence effects by 15%.


Improved Power Word: Shield - 3/3 points
Reduces the duration of your Power Word: Shield's Weakened Soul effect by 15 seconds.


Improved Power Word: Fortitude - 2/2 points
Increases the effect of your Power Word: Fortitude spell by 30%.


Mental Agility - 5/5 points
Reduces the mana cost of your instant cast spells by 10%.


Mental Strength - 5/5 points
Increases your maximum Mana by 10%.


Inner Focus - 1/1 point
When activated, reduces the Mana cost of your next spell by 100% and increases its critical effect chance by 25% if it is capable of a critical effect.




Holy Talents (9 points)


Improved Renew - 5/5 points
Increases the amount healed by your Renew spell by 15%.


Spiritual Healing - 4/5 points
Increases the amount healed by your healing spells by 8%.




Shadow Talents (21 points)


Blackout - 5/5 points
Gives your Shadow damage spells a 10% chance to stun the target for 3 seconds.


Improved Shadow Word: Pain - 2/2 points
Increases the duration of your Shadow Word: Pain spell by 6 seconds.


Shadow Focus - 3/5 points
Reduces your target's chance to resist your Shadow spells by 6%.


Improved Mind Blast - 5/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Mind Blast spell by 2.5 seconds.


Mind Flay - 1/1 point
Assault the target's mind with Shadow energy, causing 75 damage over 3 seconds and slowing the target to 50% of their movement speed.


Improved Psychic Scream - 2/2 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Psychic Scream ability by 4 seconds.


Shadow Reach - 2/3 points
Increases the range of your Shadow damage spells by 13%.


Silence - 1/1 point
Silence the target, preventing them from casting spells for 5 seconds.


non ho ne matrydom ne focused castig, perkè se uno war/rogue non ti vuole far castare, lo fa cmq tra stun kick pummel etc... se puoi casatre invece non hai bisogno dei 2 suddetti talenti

fade non lo prendo perkè fo pvp
spirit trap serve solo se expi in solo, altrimenti se curi non killi mob, quindi spirit trap nonp arte (raddoppia spirit solo se sei tu a dare l'ultimo colpo che uccide il mob/nemico)


poi ho preso imp mind blast perkè alla fine è l'unico cast d'attcco che si usa
shadow reach perkè auemntai l range delle magie di danno
mental steght pèerkè aumenta il mana pool (+ un preist a mana + è immortale)
shadow focus basta a 3