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Manfalus
14th July 2005, 16:04
Mi era venuto lo sfizio di un warrior orientato al dual wielding: al momento non mi interessa sapere se è la soluzione più efficace per pvp, mi basta che possa expare decentemente: ho ipotizzato questo template, e mi servirebbe il parere di chi il war lo ha giocato e lo conosce bene :)

Spero che i valori siano aggiornati agli ultimi cambiamenti.



Fury Talents (20 points)

Cruelty - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with melee weapons by 5%.

Unbridled Wrath - 5/5 points
Gives you a 40% chance to generate an additional Rage point when you deal melee damage with a weapon.

Improved Battle Shout - 5/5 points
Increases the Attack Power bonus of your Battle Shout by 25%.

Dual Wield Specialization - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your offhand weapon by 25%.



Arms Talents (31 points)

Deflection - 5/5 points
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.

Improved Rend - 3/3 points
Increases the bleed damage done by your Rend ability by 35%.

Improved Heroic Strike - 3/3 points
Reduces the cost of your Heroic Strike ability by 3 rage points.

Improved Charge - 2/2 points
Increases the rage generated by your Charge ability by 6.

Tactical Mastery - 5/5 points
You retain up to 25 of your rage points when you change stances.

Deep Wounds - 3/3 points
Your critical strikes cause the opponent to bleed, dealing 60% of your melee weapon's average damage over 12 seconds.

Anger Management - 1/1 point
Increases the time required for your Rage to decay while out of combat by 30%.

Impale - 2/2 points
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your abilities in Battle, Defensive, and Berserker stance by 20%.

Sweeping Strikes - 1/1 point
You next 5 melee weapon swings strike an additional nearby opponent.

Mortal Strike - 1/1 point
A vicious strike that deals weapon damage plus 160 and wounds the target, reducing the effectiveness of any healing by 50% for 10 seconds.



E qui la scelta degli ultimi 5 punti rimanenti (sempre in arms). Ero orientato più su Sword, ma sono comunque indeciso.



Axe Specialization - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Axes by 5%.

oppure

Sword Specialization - 5/5 points
Gives you a 6% chance to get an extra attack on the same target after dealing damage with your Sword.






Grazie per l’aiuto che vorrete darmi :)

Boroming
14th July 2005, 16:21
per expare e mejo 33 fury 18 arms..

gallack
14th July 2005, 16:51
imho per DW devi massimizzare nel ramo fury, evita di prendere improved heroicstrike e fra le specializzazioni delle armi, imho, sword è la peggiore in quanto 6% di possibilità di fare extra attacchi è veramente bassa, molto meglio axe per cercare di portare il critico in berserkstance verso il 27/28% oppure optare per un dw mace con la possibilità di proc stun da 3 sec.

Se vuoi un consigli fatti il classico template 31/20 arms/fury usa DW per fare rage in fretta e scaricala con una macro switch dw->2H + mortalstrike (martello reward di alterac spacca di brutto).

PS: non sacrificare enrage per aumentare del 25% il danno di off-hand. (nel caso respecchi 31/20 arms/fury)

Manfalus
14th July 2005, 19:30
Non conosco il 33f/18a :scratch:


Se ho ben capito, suggerite qualcosa di simile a questo?

Arms Talents (19 points)


Improved Rend - 3/3 points
Increases the bleed damage done by your Rend ability by 35%.


Deflection - 5/5 points
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.


Tactical Mastery - 5/5 points
You retain up to 25 of your rage points when you change stances.


Anger Management - 1/1 point
Increases the time required for your Rage to decay while out of combat by 30%.


Deep Wounds - 3/3 points
Your critical strikes cause the opponent to bleed, dealing 60% of your melee weapon's average damage over 12 seconds.


Impale - 2/2 points
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your abilities in Battle, Defensive, and Berserker stance by 20%.




Fury Talents (32 points)


Cruelty - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with melee weapons by 5%.


Unbridled Wrath - 5/5 points
Gives you a 40% chance to generate an additional Rage point when you deal melee damage with a weapon.


Improved Battle Shout - 5/5 points
Increases the Attack Power bonus of your Battle Shout by 25%.


Enrage - 5/5 points
Gives you a 40% melee damage bonus for 12 seconds up to a maximum of 12 swings after being the victim of a critical strike.


Dual Wield Specialization - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your offhand weapon by 25%.


Improved Execute - 2/2 points
Reduces the Rage cost of your Execute ability by 5.


Flurry - 5/5 points
Increases your attack speed by 30% for your next 3 swings after dealing a critical strike.

ahzael
15th July 2005, 09:03
template mio
Cruelty 5
Improved demoralizing 3
Unbridled wrath 3
Piercing howl
Blood Craze 3
Enrage 5
Dual wield 5
Death wish (serve. serve proprio, in quanto lo si puo usare in battle stance )
Improved intercept 1
Berserk rage 2
Flurry 4
Bloodthirst (ottimo per expare)

Arms
heroic strike 3
improved charge 1
Tactical mastery 3
Improved overpower 2
Rend 3
Deep wounds 3
impale 2


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DW rulla di brutto, reckless in dw fa moooooooolto piu male di reckless in 2h, ovviamente sono macrato con overpower su 2h

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cmq molto del mio template e' scazzato per provare, cmq in linea di massima rimane quello. ti dico cosa non ti deve mancare
Impale 2 , ovvio , non puo mancare :D
Overpower 2 , come sopra
Tactical mastery : se uno non lo ha /gc remove, non puoi rimanere a zero rage quando cambi istanza.
Blood craze, ottimo ora, piercing owl indispensabile.
Death wish, e' sempre un purge in piu e poi fai ottimi danni.
Bloodthirst : ottimo per il pve
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cosa potresti non prendere
i vari debuff non servono tantissimo
unbrided wrath anche, dw crea piu rage di quanto ne possa utilizzare

Armi da usare, ovviamnete le meglio armi che trovi , cmq rimani sempre nell ordine di 2,40 su primaria e 1,80 sulla seconda (io veramente ho sempre preferito la daga 1,40).
Template finale axe 2,40 / axe 1,40 + arcanite reaper :)

PuPpEt
26th July 2005, 17:55
cmq non va bene ora va di moda esser un mio clone -.- prima ero l'unico dw e tutti che dicevano che sucava

Silverk75
23rd August 2005, 14:03
Personalmente, a vecchia esperienza fatta su template combat rogue, seguirò questo template, secondo me utile per pvp - pve:

Arms Talents (25 points)

# Improved Rend - 3/3 points
Increases the bleed damage done by your Rend ability by 35%.

# Deflection - 2/5 points
Increases your Parry chance by 2%.

# Improved Charge - 2/2 points
Increases the rage generated by your Charge ability by 6.

# Tactical Mastery - 5/5 points
You retain up to 25 of your rage points when you change stances.

# Deep Wounds - 3/3 points
Your critical strikes cause the opponent to bleed, dealing 60% of your melee weapon's average damage over 12 seconds.

# Improved Overpower - 2/2 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your Overpower ability by 50%.

# Anger Management - 1/1 point
Increases the time required for your Rage to decay while out of combat by 30%.

# Impale - 2/2 points
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your abilities in Battle, Defensive, and Berserker stance by 20%.

# Mace Specialization - 5/5 points
Gives you a 6% chance to stun your target for 3 seconds with a Mace.



Fury Talents (26 points)

# Cruelty - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with melee weapons by 5%.

# Booming Voice - 3/5 points
Increases the area of effect and duration of your Battle Shout and Demoralizing Shout by 30%.

# Improved Demoralizing Shout - 2/5 points
Increases the attack power reduction of your Demoralizing Shout by 16%.

# Piercing Howl - 1/1 point
Causes all enemies near the warrior to be dazed for 6 seconds.

# Improved Battle Shout - 4/5 points
Increases the Attack Power bonus of your Battle Shout by 20%.

# Enrage - 5/5 points
Gives you a 40% melee damage bonus for 12 seconds up to a maximum of 12 swings after being the victim of a critical strike.

# Dual Wield Specialization - 4/5 points
Increases the damage done by your offhand weapon by 20%.

# Death Wish - 1/1 point
When activated, increases your physical damage by 20% and makes you immune to fear effects, but lowers your armor and all resistances by 20%. Lasts 30 seconds.

# Flurry - 1/5 point
Increases your attack speed by 10% for your next 3 swings after dealing a critical strike.



Protection Talents (0 points)

# None



Stun Proc del mace spec entra che è un piacere, flurry, anche al minimo, aiuta piacevolmente, Death Wish ed Enrage sono un boost allucinante ai danni, e chiaramente ho fatto macro per OverPower--> Switch Arma, macro per Disarm (veloce e utilizzima), e picchio come un disperato...

lordrast
5th October 2005, 13:00
Scusate ma a questo punto si ripropone secondo me il dilemma sulla scelte della razza migliore... visto che per ora sono passato all' orda che ne dite di un bel Troll D/W mace ?? in berserker dovrebbe essere una bella rogna nn vi pare ??