ranger temp, need opinioni

[AceGentile]

all'inizio volevo usare champ bow e lw mainhand, poi non mi piaceva molto il risultato e ho provato a farlo con fool e champ weapon mainhand

stavo ponderando se fosse ancora il caso di usare lw, visto che cmq hiddati le hanno tutte cappata da spell, + res dei cl + eventualmente aom/em(quindi si parla di minimo 36res)

con pierce naturale avrei malus vs inf/sb/hunter e credo pure scout(non son sicuro di scout non ricordo) quindi sono minimo 36 res(39 con gsv) + eventuale pd di hunter/scout.

x voi è na cazzata non switchare ma stare fissi a 1 tipo di danno solo, considerando appunto che ora ci sono res elementali molto + alte?

e anche opinioni sul temp please :D


Config Report

Stats

Str: 91 Int: 0 Hits: 196
Con: 76 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 95 Cha: 0
Qui: 43 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 28 Energy: 15 (5) Crush: 24 (5)
Cold: 27 Matter: 29 Thrust: 27
Heat: 22 Spirit: 31 Slash: 27

Skills

6 Recurve Bow

11 Stealth

6 Blades

10 Piercing

11 Celtic Dual

Focus

Cap Increases



20 Dex

24 Str

Other Bonuses

3 Archery Range Bonus

4 Style Damage Bonus

4 Melee Damage Bonus

7 Melee Speed Bonus

3 Archery Speed Bonus

5 Fatigue

20 AF Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: reveries
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 22 Constitution
Effect 3: 22 Dexterity
Effect 4: 4 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 3 Celtic Dual
Effect 6: 2 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 66.33

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 13 Dexterity - 99 imperfect Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 5 Stealth - 99 imperfect Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 16 Constitution - 99 polished Earthen Essence
Utility: 64.33

Head
Name: wh
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 5 Fatigue
Effect 3: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 6: 15 Strength
Effect 7: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Quickness - 99 perfect Airy Essence
Gem 2: 3 Recurve Bow - 99 rough Airy War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 16 Constitution - 99 polished Earthen Essence
Utility: 64.33

Hands
Name: mariasha
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Recurve Bow
Effect 2: 3 Archery Speed Bonus
Effect 3: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 3 Archery Range Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Heat Resist
Effect 8: 4 Cold Resist
Effect 9: 4 Energy Resist
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 63.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 36.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 22 Constitution - 99 precious Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 76 Hits - 99 perfect Blood Essence
Gem 3: 5 Cold Resist - 99 flawed Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Thrust Resist - 99 imperfect Airy Shielding
Utility: 57.67

Right Hand
Name: champ ranger
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 2: 7 Strength
Effect 3: 9 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.67

Left Hand
Name: blade shadow
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Piercing
Effect 2: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 36 Hits
Effect 4: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 8 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 49.00

Ranged
Name: fool
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Quickness
Effect 2: 18 Dexterity
Effect 3: 3 Archery Speed Bonus
Effect 4: 5 Recurve Bow
Effect 5: 3 Archery Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 3 Archery Range Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 49.00

Neck
Name: soa
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Body Resist
Effect 4: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: som
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: harpy
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 44 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 59.00

Belt
Name: malamis
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 21 Strength
Effect 2: 21 Dexterity
Effect 3: 7 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 28.00

Right Ring
Name: amanita
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 2: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 6 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 6 Energy Resist
Effect 5: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Ring
Name: ring of dances
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 3 Stealth
Effect 3: 15 Strength
Effect 4: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 5 Slash Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 55.00

Right Wrist
Name: ebon hide
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: ebon hide
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Body Resist
Effect 4: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 5: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

[bakunin]

è un ottimo tp indubbiamente, hai tutti gli arty e res tutte cappate... si puo fare di meglio solo con oggetti molto difficilmente reperibili


mi ponevo anch'io il tuo stesso quesito... andare di perfo su hiddati è disastroso sulla carta, 36 di res più eventuale pd (di hunter e scout)... pero c'è quel 4%melee e 4%style che fa gola

ci devo ragionare un po sopra ho ripreso da poco e ho le idee arrugginite ^^

[AceGentile]

io stavo pensando di andare con perfo naturale perchè appunto res heat/cold ora sono molto ma molto + alte, la maggior parte di hunter/scout(vabbeh che scout da solo non lo becco mai, e se lo beccassi in melee 80% me lo magno) avrebbe em/aom x contrastare lo strapotere delle lw.

[AceGentile]

provato a fare versione con golden spear/cw offhand

perdo 8dex overcap(che sarebbe tipo 5/6dmg in + direi), prendo doppio debuff thrust, arrivo a 10 melee speed, 8 style dmg al posto di 4, 4melee dmg che c'era già

perdo 5cold e 5spirit res, prendo 4hits in + e pierce arriva a 11(era 10 nel primo)

visto che sono ibrido a maggior ragione devo contare sulle cariche di oggetti se mi attaccano di melee, avrei winged helm som e battler di back, nel primo temp pensavo di prendere la charge con hp/end regen ma qui non ne vale la pena

che ne dite?

temp con gs/cw

Config Report

Stats

Str: 104 Int: 0 Hits: 200
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 95 Cha: 0
Qui: 47 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 28 Energy: 15 (5) Crush: 31 (5)
Cold: 22 Matter: 29 Thrust: 27
Heat: 22 Spirit: 21 Slash: 34

Skills

6 Recurve Bow

11 Stealth

2 Blades

11 Celtic Dual

11 Piercing

Focus

Cap Increases

12 Dex

17 Str

Other Bonuses

4 Melee Damage Bonus

8 Style Damage Bonus

5 Fatigue

11 Melee Speed Bonus

3 Archery Speed Bonus

3 Archery Range Bonus

20 AF Bonus

[AceGentile]

susu, allora? :bow:

[bakunin]

Str: 104
Dex: 95

Cap Increases
12 Dex
17 Str

qual'è quello giusto???

btw res un po schifate, meglio l'altro :D

[AceGentile]

i gli overcap son giusti, xo sfondo con oggetti.

boh a me quasi piace di + questo, perdo 5cold, res superfondamentali niente di altro a parte 1 po di spirit ma cappo melee speed e 4 style dmg in +

[Saffo]

ci devo ragionare un po sopra ho ripreso da poco e ho le idee arrugginite ^^

Ho quasi finito di rifare il mio TP per il 7l0....ma ti accolgo anche prima a braccia aperte :love:

[kilijan]

Io alle Lw nn rinuncerei fosse in te...., cmq come tp credo sia meglio il secondo:)

Se ti puo' essere utile posso postare il tp del ranger che ho appena comprato su Galahad..., ha oggetti un po difficili ma e' davvero uber:)

Cia

Kili

[AceGentile]

cosa intendi x difficili :D

cmq mostra va

[kilijan]

Ring of heavens.....:kiss: , spe mo che devo loggare e mettere gli item nel db d sc

Cia

kili

[AceGentile]

vabeh ma su hibs è na cazzata farmarlo :D

[kilijan]

Tie' pezza:)

Config Report

Stats

Str: 114 Int: 0 Hits: 208
Con: 73 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 122 Cha: 0
Qui: 63 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 25 Energy: 0 Crush: 28 (2)
Cold: 25 Matter: 11 Thrust: 23
Heat: 22 Spirit: 26 (5) Slash: 27 (3)

Skills

11 Celtic Dual

12 Stealth

11 Piercing

4 Blades

Focus

Cap Increases

25 Dex

7 Qui

23 Str

10 AF

Other Bonuses

40 AF Bonus

4 Melee Damage Bonus

15 Fatigue

9 Melee Speed Bonus

4 Style Damage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: gov
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 6 Celtic Dual - 99 polished Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 3 Thrust Resist - 99 rough Airy Shielding
Gem 3: 16 Quickness - 99 polished Airy Essence
Gem 4: 3 Piercing - 99 rough Dusty War Spell Stone
Utility: 61.67

Head
Name: wh
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 5 Fatigue
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: 15 Strength
Effect 6: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 7: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.00

Legs
Name: astral
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 21 Constitution
Effect 2: 44 Hits
Effect 3: 2 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 4: 5 Fatigue
Effect 5: 22 Strength
Effect 6: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 49.67

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 16 Quickness - 99 polished Airy Essence
Gem 2: 9 Body Resist - 99 polished Dusty Shielding
Gem 3: 4 Piercing - 99 flawed Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 9 Slash Resist - 99 polished Watery Shielding
Utility: 66.67

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 16 Strength - 99 polished Fiery Essence
Gem 2: 5 Celtic Dual - 99 imperfect Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 3 Cold Resist - 99 rough Icy Shielding
Utility: 60.33

Right Hand
Name: lw
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 28 Dexterity
Effect 2: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.67

Left Hand
Name: lw
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 28 Dexterity
Effect 2: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.67

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: paedrian
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 2: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 10 Body Resist
Effect 4: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: som
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 5 Fatigue
Effect 5: 10 AF Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: harpy
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 44 Hits
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 59.00

Belt
Name: twisted malamis
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 24 Dexterity
Effect 3: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 4: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 8 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 31.00

Right Ring
Name: heavens
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Constitution
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 6 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 10 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 38.00

Left Ring
Name: rod
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 12 Strength
Effect 3: 12 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 5 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 51.00

Right Wrist
Name: blackened
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 2 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 2: 3 Stealth
Effect 3: 16 Strength
Effect 4: 16 Quickness
Effect 5: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 7 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.33

Left Wrist
Name: cyclone
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 11 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

Puo' essere che ci sia qualche piccola imprecisione(ho fretta e nn posso riguardare bene), ma agi da buffato va a 250

Mettendo gs+croc dagger ( e a breve crocco/gs+cw pierce) si cappano i bonus toa e si cappa anche quel thrust che altrimenti sarebbe a 23%.

Cia

Kili

[AceGentile]

uhm boh essendo melee io proverei a schiaffarci il + hits possibile, nn c'è 1 qualche modo x aumentarli?

energy 0 se ti becchi gente brava con sun weapons ti fa millemila dmg (vedi cili che ora sul nuovo sb tra i miliardi di armi che ha usa anche le sun swords :look: )

della serie a rr4LX si è mangiato rackir(ns rr11)

edit ma perchè non lo specchi ibrido, molto meglio imo. x me il melee ranger è 1 ottima classe da giocare, tanka da dio e tutto ma dipende tantissimo da artefatti e cariche. ibrido almeno fai qualcosa di arco, e cmq in melee ti difendi (tanto x farti 1esempio, xyrin :D)

[kilijan]

Mm ba:), faro' prove su sto ranger per vedere come farlo rullare al top, l'ho preso da poco (ci avro' fatto 150k) e devo ancora iniziare a padroneggiarlo, so manco Cl2 pz-.-, per la spec definitiva quindi si vedra'.

Situazione hits sul melee ranger: bah, io nn ne ho veramente idea se si possono inserire item che li boostino, indi rimando a gente piu' esperta sull argomento:D

Situazione armi BoS (che nn sta a zero ma a 10 data dal CL): mah, nn mi hanno mai fatto paura, ne al 4l, ne ora che sn 9l.., di gente forte che le usa nn ne homai trovata.., giusto Civl nei suoi millemila switch..., pero' nemmeno lui (che considero il miglior hiddato nella storia) mi ha impensierito, abbiam fatto diversi duel (li vedrai nel video :) ) e la differenza nn e' mai stata fatta dalla bos weapon, che nemmeno credo abbia mai usato vs me.

Cia

Kili

[AceGentile]

pacco dimmi opinione nel mio new thread :D