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Corey
11th October 2006, 13:01
Io ho fatto questo tp con oggetti ke gia' possiedo, secondo voi si puo' fare di meglio?

PS: nel ranged ci so i bonus delle armor nuove.
Config Report
Stats
Str: 103 Int: 0 Hits: 172
Con: 100 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 68 Cha: 0
Qui: 79 Emp: 0
Resists
Body: 27 Energy: 14 Crush: 8 (2)
Cold: 28 (5) Matter: 6 Thrust: 26
Heat: 12 Spirit: 21 Slash: 24 (3)
Skills
11 Left Axe
11 Critical Strike
3 Parry
11 Stealth
8 Sword
5 Axe
Focus
Cap Increases
12 Dex
7 Qui
176 Hits
25 Str
25 Con
Other Bonuses
12 Melee Damage Bonus
9 Style Damage Bonus
4 Spell Range Bonus
4 Casting Speed Bonus
12 Melee Speed Bonus
9 Fatigue
55 AF Bonus
Piece Listing
Chest
Name: Guard of Valor
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Utility: 32.00
Arms
Name: Lurking Shadow Sleeves
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 15 Constitution
Effect 2: 15 Quickness
Effect 3: 3 Critical Strike
Effect 4: 7 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 49.00
Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 16 Constitution - 99 polished Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 5 Body Resist - 99 flawed Dusty Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Thrust Resist - 99 polished Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Left Axe - 99 imperfect Icy War Rune
Utility: 63.67
Legs
Name: Arcane Assassin's Leggings
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 24 Constitution
Effect 2: 4 Critical Strike
Effect 3: 9 Body Resist
Effect 4: 9 Cold Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Utility: 72.00
Hands
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 11 Thrust Resist - 99 faceted Airy Shielding
Gem 2: 3 Left Axe - 99 rough Icy War Rune
Gem 3: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 3 Sword - 99 rough Watery War Rune
Utility: 72.00
Feet
Name: Lurking Shadow Boots
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 18 Quickness
Effect 2: 3 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 3: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 3 Left Axe
Utility: 66.00
Right Hand
Name: Battler
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Utility: 56.00
Left Hand
Name: Malice axe
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 30.00
Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00
Ranged
Name:
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 2: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 3: Empty
Effect 4: Empty
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Utility: 0.00
Neck
Name: Charred Pentaglyph
Level: 50 Quality: 89
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Energy Resist
Effect 4: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 6 Spirit Resist
Effect 6: 10 AF Bonus
Utility: 60.00
Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist
Level: 46 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Quickness
Effect 3: 3 Parry
Effect 4: 3 Stealth
Effect 5: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Utility: 50.00
Jewel
Name: Gem of Moirai
Level: 49 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 7 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 3: 8 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 4: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 64 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Utility: 14.00
Belt
Name: Belt of Abolishment
Level: 51 Quality: 89
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 2 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 2: 7 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 3: 15 AF Bonus
Effect 4: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 32 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Utility: 0.00
Right Ring
Name: Ring of the Tempest
Level: 49 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 5 Stealth
Effect 3: 7 Body Resist
Effect 4: 48 Hits
Effect 5: 2 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Utility: 63.00
Left Ring
Name: Ozur's Shadow Ring
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 22 Strength
Effect 2: 30 Constitution
Effect 3: 22 Dexterity
Effect 4: 15 Quickness
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Utility: 59.33
Right Wrist
Name: Black Water Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 8 Energy Resist
Effect 3: 8 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 8 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 44 Hits
Effect 6: Empty
Utility: 75.00
Left Wrist
Name: Blackened Wrap
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 16 Dexterity
Effect 2: 16 Quickness
Effect 3: 3 Stealth
Effect 4: 2 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 5: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 7 Quickness Cap Increase
Utility: 46.33

Rpreaper
11th October 2006, 13:09
pochi hits poco heat overcap ottimi io con heat in quel modo nn girerei mai dato ke ti usano contro la lw heat visto ke cuoio è debole a heat..

bakunin
11th October 2006, 14:32
conviene ancora usare armi heat dopo che le han nerfate a 5% e solo vs cuoio?

edorapiangi
11th October 2006, 17:54
ad essere obbiettivi fa abbastanza schif 8) ....se vuoi te ne passo uno io in pm...l'ho fatto adesso in 5 minuti ;P ....puoi switchare qualsiasi arma con +4 arma e 10 str (sulle lw spellate consiglio +4 arma +10 str e +9% spirit .....coi spirit arriva a 23 ^^ ) ho tenuto il moirai ...., ho messo la phoebus, ho messo il ring of dances, ho aumentato gli hits e tenuto alta cost ( 392 pf e 92 cost), ho migliorato le res (body 22 heat 24 fisiche a 25+)

dimmi se lo vuoi che te lo passo 8)

edit: unica pecca: usando la cw arrivi tranquillamente a 101 forza, usando le altre armi arrivi "solo" a 98....
tutto qui

Corey
11th October 2006, 21:04
Ke ne dite di questo?


Config Report

Stats

Str: 116 Int: 0 Hits: 248
Con: 101 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 65 Cha: 0
Qui: 52 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 27 Energy: 6 Crush: 29 (2)
Cold: 21 (5) Matter: 12 Thrust: 26
Heat: 12 Spirit: 7 Slash: 27 (3)

Skills

12 Stealth

3 Parry

12 Critical Strike

11 Sword

11 Left Axe

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Dex

144 Hits

25 Str

25 Con

Other Bonuses

8 Melee Damage Bonus

9 Style Damage Bonus

4 Spell Range Bonus

4 Casting Speed Bonus

12 Melee Speed Bonus

9 Fatigue

50 AF Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest

Name: Guard of Valor
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 5 Body Resist - 99 flawed Dusty Shielding
Gem 2: 3 Stealth - 99 rough Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 6 Critical Strike - 99 polished Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 10 Constitution - 99 flawed Earthen Essence
Utility: 61.67

Head
Name: Lurking Shadow Circlet
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 3 Stealth
Effect 3: 6 Body Resist
Effect 4: 6 Energy Resist
Effect 5: 40 Hits
Effect 6: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Utility: 61.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 10 Constitution - 99 flawed Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 6 Critical Strike - 99 polished Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 3 Sword - 99 rough Watery War Rune
Gem 4: 5 Thrust Resist - 99 flawed Airy Shielding
Utility: 61.67

Hands
Imbue Points: 36.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 4 Sword - 99 flawed Watery War Rune
Gem 2: 4 Left Axe - 99 flawed Icy War Rune
Gem 3: 5 Thrust Resist - 99 flawed Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 68 Hits - 99 flawless Blood Essence
Utility: 67.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 36.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: Gem 1: 4 Sword - 99 flawed Watery War Rune
Gem 2: 4 Left Axe - 99 flawed Icy War Rune
Gem 3: 7 Slash Resist - 99 imperfect Watery Shielding
Gem 4: 22 Quickness - 99 precious Airy Essence
Utility: 68.67

Right Hand
Name: Battler
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Utility: 56.00

Left Hand
Name: Malice axe
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 30.00

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Name:
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 2: 3 Left Axe
Effect 3: Empty
Effect 4: Empty
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Utility: 15.00

Neck
Name: Beaded Resisting Stones
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist
Level: 46 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Quickness
Effect 3: 3 Parry
Effect 4: 3 Stealth
Effect 5: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Utility: 50.00

Jewel
Name: Gem of Moirai
Level: 49 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 7 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 3: 8 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 4: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 64 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Utility: 14.00

Belt
Name: Plaited Hair of Malamis
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 18 Constitution
Effect 3: 7 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 4: 7 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Utility: 24.00

Right Ring
Name: Ozur's Shadow Ring
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 22 Strength
Effect 2: 30 Constitution
Effect 3: 22 Dexterity
Effect 4: 15 Quickness
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Utility: 59.33

Left Ring
Name: Ring of the dance
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 13 Strength
Effect 3: 13 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 5 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 10 AF Bonus
Utility: 52.33

Right Wrist
Name: Zahur's Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 60 Hits
Effect 5: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: 10 AF Bonus
Utility: 51.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Utility: 60.00

edorapiangi
11th October 2006, 21:26
e' gia meglio del primo ...pero' anke con sto tp sei sempre e solo legato al battler ...non puoi switchare nulla senza perdere qualcosa in resist e/o stat...
il che e' un peccato,
heat e' ancora a 12 ....e ti sconsiglio vivamente di girare con heat 12,
manca la phoebus harp....l'use ti assicuro assorbe mooolti ma moooolti hp.
poi io cercherei di distribuire nel modo migliore gli hp e i punti in cost invece di puntare solamente su cost....

detto questo ti posto le caratteristiche del tp di cui ti parlavo ....se ti piace dimmelo che te lo piemmo:


Config Report

Stats

Str: 91 Int: 0 Hits: 392
Con: 92 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 30 Cha: 0
Qui: 75 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 22 Energy: 0 Crush: 26
Cold: 0 Matter: 0 Thrust: 27
Heat: 24 Spirit: 14 Slash: 25

Skills

11 Stealth

11 Critical Strike

11 Dual Wield

7 Slash

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Dex

192 Hits

23 Str

18 Con

Other Bonuses

6 Spell Duration Bonus

9 Style Damage Bonus

4 Spell Range Bonus

2 Casting Speed Bonus

9 Melee Speed Bonus

4 Melee Damage Bonus

30 AF Bonus

6 Power Percentage Bonus

e' senza MH calcolata ...puoi switchare tutto cio' che abbia +4arma +10str (ossia CW, LW spellate, SUN weapons,armi normali spellate, o drop con le caratteristiche che ho detto)
ha la gov, la malice, som, PH, rod.
dimmi tu

Saffo
12th October 2006, 14:41
conviene ancora usare armi heat dopo che le han nerfate a 5% e solo vs cuoio?

in effetti quel nerf (parlo dal punto di vista SB) è stato devastante, in effetti vedo molti ranger/NS che girano direttamente con CW+Malice, oramai in pochi mi incano di heat...
Da SB ho vs Heat ho 26+10-5=31, mentre vs slash ho 26+3-5=24, anche se mi sparo le res cl vado a 29, ma se mi entra un debuff slash della CW scendo a 17 :gha:
Io da SB mi trovo vs certi target molto in difficoltà, spesso twisto le armi e cerco di ricordarmi tutti i target dove sono deboli, ma ci sta ad esempio un NS luriken 5l che gira con AoM4, non ho idea di come incarlo...(slash è resistente, crush ha 26+5 razziale, le res magiche sono alle stelle con AoM4)..

Oramai quando vedo un infi saraceno lo inco direttamente Matter/CW o se immagino che non abbia più le res cleric di Sun Axe o Spirit...

Alla fine la grossa differenza è stata HeatvsLeather, dovrei gioirne?
mah, peccato che la mia armor suka by slash, le armor hibbe invece resistono slash, e i saraceni hanno 5 heat razziale...

bakunin
12th October 2006, 14:54
beh si dal tuo punto di vista ok, a sto punto scusa fai prima ad andare cw+malice anche tu no?

in pratica i ranger e gli altri assassini non ti possono piu incare con 31-15-debuff che ti portava le res sotto zero...

a conti fatti come fa a non convenirti... io giravo con 2 heat e switch all'occorrenza

poi le ra le devi contare a parte. hai aom3? perche non prendi cost3 e tough3 invece?

poi il fatto che l'sb sia svantaggiato perche puo usare solo slash (e bludgeon salva chiappe ogni tanto è up), hanno ridotto questo gap con le nuove tabelle

Piola
12th October 2006, 14:58
Dai bimbi inchiamociiii!
E Edo metti su il tuo TP cosi' vedo con cosa menarti :sneer:
Ciao ragazzi:kiss:

Saffo
12th October 2006, 15:04
beh si dal tuo punto di vista ok, a sto punto scusa fai prima ad andare cw+malice anche tu no?
in pratica i ranger e gli altri assassini non ti possono piu incare con 31-15-debuff che ti portava le res sotto zero...
a conti fatti come fa a non convenirti... io giravo con 2 heat e switch all'occorrenza
poi le ra le devi contare a parte. hai aom3? perche non prendi cost3 e tough3 invece?
poi il fatto che l'sb sia svantaggiato perche puo usare solo slash (e bludgeon salva chiappe ogni tanto è up), hanno ridotto questo gap con le nuove tabelle

Ehm se io vado di CW+Malice mi becco una resist di 26+10, mentre loro di slash su di me hanno 29-5, un bel 12% di differenza, non è il massimo della vita.....
Cmq adesso vedo se alzare gli HP, considera che ho though1 e cos1 e con quest'ultimo TP ora ho 2395 HP, quindi al massimo andrò a though2 per arrivare a 2445 HP...

AceGentile
12th October 2006, 15:38
vi lamentate sui toa, ho degli screen su classic che fanno rabbrividire :rain:

ranger con 41taglio (31+10 di armor) e 31 impatto (26+5+5-5) con pd5 :cry: