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9-3v4iM-9
28th February 2007, 11:41
-The base healing percent from "Vampiric Embrace" has been reduced to 15% from 20%. In addition, this ability can no longer get critical heals.
-"Silent Resolve" no longer reduces threat generated by Shadow spells.
-Prayer of Mending now has a 10 second cooldown. (10-50 se il cd lo lasciano in modo che possa partire solo quando il mending fa la prima cura)
Buffs:
-Circle of Healing will cost 30% less mana.
- The amount of damage mitigation Power Word: Shield gains from +healing is improved to 20%.
mi metto a whinare un pò anche con il druid così magari tolgono i nerf :D
Ged
28th February 2007, 11:53
eh bè, l'han proprio tolto il nerf :nod:
VE non l'han cambiato
L'aggro resta uguale
ProM forse sarà mantenuta in barra e usata per sbaglio se non abbiam niente da fare (un cooldown giusto è 5 o 7 secondo, non 10, perchè in 10 siamo belli stecchiti)
CoH moasuhauahuh un talento inutile che resta ancora inutile anche se ora è più mana efficent
Uno scaling dei PW:S che era e resta rotto, dato che il suo giusto valore dovrebbe essere 43%
9-3v4iM-9
28th February 2007, 12:06
considerando che è della blizzard che parliamo, per 10 secondi in meno a PoH io esulterei :D
Ozn ZzZ
28th February 2007, 21:28
Si riconfermano i mage i migliori whinnatori mondiali a cui hanno ridato cose gia tolte in precedenza (vedi GCD su CS).
Che dire,il nerf ai preti ci sta tutto :sneer:
Ged
28th February 2007, 22:01
Che dire,il nerf ai preti ci sta tutto :sneer:
sukone
:kiss:
9-3v4iM-9
28th February 2007, 23:34
e confermiamo anche i warrior come i peggiori whiner di sempre... poveretti gli hanno sistemato 2 cose giusto per pietà :(
Tibù
1st March 2007, 09:18
e confermiamo anche i warrior come i peggiori whiner di sempre... poveretti gli hanno sistemato 2 cose giusto per pietà :(
eh forse siamo gli unici che hanno diritto a lamentarsi mo:sneer:
ma come gia detto appena girano armi dps 100+ ritorna il nerf:nod:
heartless
1st March 2007, 10:32
vabbè sopravviveremo anche con sto giro di inutilità. La cosa più sgrava che ci hanno dato è cmq sul mass dispell cheora su target che ha un immune a tutto (tipo shield del pala, ice block ecc) dispella fisso il buff di immunità, equesto mi fa godere e non poco :sneer:
per il resto boh, per ora non è male male speriamo in cambi più radicali :)
Axelfolie
1st March 2007, 13:38
nerf giustissimo :point: :point:
fa nulla se poi un mage fa 8732862986 danni instant... nc alla blizzard, reroll inc :rain:
Kith
1st March 2007, 14:10
dove devo whinare per riavere la bear form utile? Non dico i danni, ma almeno i pf -_-
heartless
2nd March 2007, 11:06
beh dai, il druido resta cmq un ottimo tank dato che cmq genera tantissimo aggro.
9-3v4iM-9
2nd March 2007, 11:37
si... senza gli hp e l'armor per stare in piedi però :D
Axelfolie
2nd March 2007, 12:03
vabeh ma allo stato attuale delle cose un druido feral tanka come e a volte meglio di un war.. mi sembra un tantinello sbilanciato =)
9-3v4iM-9
2nd March 2007, 12:32
appunto... sempre detto io che bastava togliere lacerate (messo volontariamente dalla blizzard), l'aggro di maul e mangle (che fa troppo danno pure in pvp non sovrapponendosi a maul).
in sto modo i druidi in bear possono:
1- off-tankare (non rubando il posto ai war)
2- fare il loro danno ma non quei numeroni omgimbazorcrit per cui tutti i biNbiminchia gridano al nerf.
poi se alla blizzard non riescono a pensare che - se prima il druid andava bene ed ora è sbilanciato in bear - basta semplicemente togliere le cose nuove che hanno messo invece di nerfare quelle che sono sempre state così (vedi savage fury su maul) allora non so che farci :) accontentiamo i whiner e non lamentiamoci quando poi passeranno a nerfare la prossima classe :)
Axelfolie
2nd March 2007, 12:47
mah, io il druido cmq lo vedevo bene così com'era, nn certo bisognoso di un nerf ke lo renda inutile.. poi vabeh, m'han nerfato il priest causa whinate sul vampiric embrace... e mo al mage daranno un altro istant tanto x cambiare :point:
9-3v4iM-9
2nd March 2007, 13:08
si infatti... NC
intanto ti riporto il forum priest per far 2 risate :D
We asked them for some sort of escape method... We suggested adding a run speed increase to fade and we were told this was an "interesting idea," and it was, they gave Blazing Speed to Mages.
We asked for a form of reliable crowd control in PvP. In return, Druids received Cyclone.
We asked for some sort of temporary immunity. Rogues acquired Cloak of Shadows.
We asked for an AoE stun since fear was so nerfed. Warlocks got Shadowfury
We asked for a Holy Form. We were actually told this would "never happen". Blizzard meant this would "never happen to Priests". Druid`s acquired Tree of Life.
Kaluisurrr
2nd March 2007, 13:37
looooool :rotfl:
Lorzmus
2nd March 2007, 14:01
Affanculo e che me fate rollà a fare sto priest allora :swear:
Axelfolie
2nd March 2007, 19:42
si infatti... NC
intanto ti riporto il forum priest per far 2 risate :D
We asked them for some sort of escape method... We suggested adding a run speed increase to fade and we were told this was an "interesting idea," and it was, they gave Blazing Speed to Mages.
We asked for a form of reliable crowd control in PvP. In return, Druids received Cyclone.
We asked for some sort of temporary immunity. Rogues acquired Cloak of Shadows.
We asked for an AoE stun since fear was so nerfed. Warlocks got Shadowfury
We asked for a Holy Form. We were actually told this would "never happen". Blizzard meant this would "never happen to Priests". Druid`s acquired Tree of Life.
se nn fosse la triste verità sarebbe divertente :gha:
Brcondor
2nd March 2007, 19:55
Bah, i dudu così messi eran 1 godimento da avere in party... potevo sparare adrnalin rush+Sline and dice+blade flurry+berserking+trinket da 200AP che cmq nn gli toglievo l'aggro manco a farlo apposta(tutti i berserking che mi partivano castrati per l'impossibilità di prendersi 2 swingatee fare feint...)... ora nn ho ben capito che faranno... il prete in pvp era molto forte(soprattutto in coppie di 2 preti) ma nn overpowered... il mage mi è sempre sembrato 1 pg da bimbominchia oneshottoilmondoconglieffettispeciali ftw(poi ci sn anche mage bravi che lo giocan da dio, e la si wippa spesso...per fortuna che sn davvero pochi)... BoF è ridicolo, il fatto che tirino pizze da 6k easy con equip del cazzo pure, tutti i bonus che hanno ora sulle magie frost... gg blizzy(ma poi perchè i rogue nn possono usare le asce? sn quelle cn la skin più bella)
Axelfolie
5th March 2007, 13:13
Ttrovato sul forum Priest:
How to tell you are a Priest:-
- You're told that your class' primary role, healing, is overpowered, and shouldn't be performable in a PvP environment.
- Every ability you get either places a debuff on you, damages you, has a 5 minute cooldown, or costs 4000 mana to cast.
- The guy in plate standing next to you can heal with double your efficiency.
- You spec into Shadow with shadowform, and do DPS competitive with the holy priest who is spending half his time DPSing and half his time healing (which in itself is half of what the real DPS classes are getting)
- A grenade is a better and more reliable form of CC than any ability your class gets.
- Your ability to heal improves when you die.
- You chase down a damaged mage who's drinking, nuke him, only to be polymorphed, which you trinket out of, then get polymorphed again, then chase him down on your mount, only to have him go invisible, which makes you yell audibly into your room "WHY CAN'T I HAVE SOME OVERPOWERED ABILITIES TOO?"
- You're reduced to posting obscenitites and ASCII drawings of rude gestures to make your point, because 2+ years of well thought out and articulate posts are ignored.
- You are told by the developers "we play priests", only to have them misquote one of your spells for something a Paladin or other class has.
- You are elated to just barely beat something 1on1.
- You spend more time watching your character die outside of your control than actively playing it.
- Your shadow damage causes more threat per point than any other damage type, and yet, apparently your threat reduction talents need a nerf.
- You can take any talent which provides you something, and directly compare it to a similar talent for another class, and it will always be 60% or more weaker.
- Good ideas you suggest are stolen from you and given to other classes.
- You'd rather state your profession than your class "I'm a level 70 TAILOR"
- Players of other classes come to your forums to offer you sympathy.
- 75% of defensive talents are luck based percentiles, and most of them only offer a chance of delaying the inevitable.
- 2400 damage crit shreds and 2800 damage non crit ferocious bites are okay, but healing yourself for 1150 isn't.
- People start spamming you to come heal their group, and when you respond "why?" they say "cause no resto druids or paladins are on"
- All you want for the next patch is a class change.
- Debuffs which reduce your healing by 50% are common abilities, yet, something that reduces damage by 60% for 8 seconds is apparently worthy of a 41 point talent (and can be easily dispelled).
- You don't have a decent 31 point or 41 point talent that you can say you're glad you had.
- You can look at any other class' talent tree, such as feral combat, and say "wow, there's not a bad talent in the bunch" and yet come back and look at yours only to see things like improved fade, shadow resilience, wand mastery, improved power word: shield, improved fortitude, absolution, etc. etc. etc.
- Your talent trees are laid out in such a way as to help you minimize how crippled you are at a certain role, instead of to enhance certain things like the other class' trees.
- You have no desire to progress in content anymore for gear, because while you can put legendary gear on a scarecrow, it's still a scarecrow.
- The only things that fear you 1on1 are paladins.
- The rogues in your guild brag about 1700 crit sinister strikes, then say it's overpowered for you to heal yourself for 1150.
- If, at any time during a battleground or in the world, a rogue attacks you, the only method for you to not watch yourself die is to shut off the computer.
- You decide not to attack two people who are significantly lower level than you, because you know what the end result will be.
- Other classes tell you to L2P, then stunlock you to death from 100-0. Apparently, this is educational.
- Every class holds some sort of hard counter to your class, yet, you don't have a single one to recipricate with.
- The biggest concerns of the developers about your broken class are lightwell and circle of healing.
- Requests for "constructive, helpful feedback" is simply a machination of the developers and forum staff to keep you busy writing things that they can easily ignore, so that they don't have to expend actual effort on deleting irate posts and banning people (which requires some WORK to do).
- A Paladin thinks that your nerfs next patch pale in comparison to his, as it means his bubble will actually be dispelled!
- You feel like you have less survivability with 9000 hitpoints at level 70 than you did with 4500 hitpoints at level 60.
- Spamming damage is balanced, spamming dispels is balanced, spamming stuns is balanced, but spamming heals is not.
- Your best escape ability, lesser invisibility potion, is on a 10 minute cooldown, can't be used in combat, and only lasts 15 seconds, but it's still the best thing you have.
- Feral druids complain about being nerfed more than you, but will still be landing 2400 crit shreds and 2800 non crit ferocious bites on you.
- Developers call you emo for just wanting to have a character that's viable in the game.
[ Post edited by Soulcorruptr ]
Ever wonder what it's like to be hated by your parents, to live a life of failure, and be laughed at by your peers?
Roll a priest.
Brcondor
5th March 2007, 16:29
BAh esagerato, 1 prete sahdow giocato bene è il caster più tosto da tirar giù(scudo, 50% assortbimento dmg melee tra armor inner fade e shadow form), ha dot silence dd decenti fear MC... io mi vorrei rollare 1 prete se solo avessi tempo, e giocarlo solo in pvp che mi divertiva troppo quando ne avevo 1... ah e dimenticavo che classi cm il wl fanno na pippa al prete che si dispella easy i dot, può far fera su pet e player contemporaneamente... in pvp poi è l'unico che ha il buff stamina(dato che difficilmente ti buffano se fai pvp a scazzo senza premade)... il talento delle wand è carino in pve, è dmg che fa poco treat e nn consuma mana(le wand hanno 1 dps altissimo... quando avevo il prete in pve grinding facevo magie holy dd con dot, smith smith shadow word: pain e lo finivo con la wand easy easy... se è poi 1 wand shadow il suo dmg è alzato da tutti gli add dmg dell'equip, mica merda)
9-3v4iM-9
5th March 2007, 20:33
è tosto teoricamente... ma te sei rogue no? ecco dimmi un priest shadow cosa fa con: cheapshot, kidney, CoS per evitare dot e fear, vanish + cheapshot appena finisce CoS...
muore e basta.
Palur
5th March 2007, 21:06
si infatti tutto sto sgravo del priest shadow nn lo vedo sinceramente.
La metà dei talenti o non fa un cazzo o non serve a una sega.
Dell'altra meta botte di sgravio non ce n'e'.
Poi si il caster poi difficile da tirar giu.....ben 5 secondi piu di un mage.
E il cc fa abbastanza merda.
Brcondor
5th March 2007, 21:34
è tosto teoricamente... ma te sei rogue no? ecco dimmi un priest shadow cosa fa con: cheapshot, kidney, CoS per evitare dot e fear, vanish + cheapshot appena finisce CoS...
muore e basta.
Lol, su questo piano, ora cm ora nessun caster mi crea problemi;respeccando sub, cosa che ho fatto, mi diverto 1 fottio coi clothes: shadowstep+ambsuh-pompato al max- e sn tra i 2.5k di dmg e i 3k+eviscerate con 2 punti-che sn 1 talentoi si becca il 25% al dmg- faccio altri 1.2-1.5k tutto questo nell'arco di 2 swingate... poi la se hjo avuto culo con critici è tutto è già morto, se ho usato premeditatiopn eviscerate con 4 punti gli ha tolto almeno 2k di danno... e la se è sopravvissuto lancio cos e gli do il colpo di grazia, la classe cambia poco... ma rpima di cos era tra i più tosti da tirar giu...
Kappa
5th March 2007, 21:37
si infatti... NC
intanto ti riporto il forum priest per far 2 risate :D
We asked them for some sort of escape method... We suggested adding a run speed increase to fade and we were told this was an "interesting idea," and it was, they gave Blazing Speed to Mages.
We asked for a form of reliable crowd control in PvP. In return, Druids received Cyclone.
We asked for some sort of temporary immunity. Rogues acquired Cloak of Shadows.
We asked for an AoE stun since fear was so nerfed. Warlocks got Shadowfury
We asked for a Holy Form. We were actually told this would "never happen". Blizzard meant this would "never happen to Priests". Druid`s acquired Tree of Life.
:rotfl:
Pic STK
9th March 2007, 14:01
ma dai, lo shadow priest va nerfato perkè farma mob da dio!!!!!!
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