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Ipnotik
5th September 2009, 01:05
non riesco a capire da cosa dipende la durata delle song. Quando ero livello 30 era impossibile tenere end e speed insieme switchandole, ora che sono 49 invece ci riesco.

Mi hanno detto che dipende dal carisma e dal livello degli strumenti usati, me lo confermate?

E' sicuro che non dipende anche dai bonus di qualche skill (tipo nurture) ?

MBK
5th September 2009, 01:31
Spell duration influisce di sicuro ma se ricordo bene ultimamente hanno implementato per tutte le classi con chant / song l'utilizzo di 2 chant / song contemporaneamente.

GreenKnight
5th September 2009, 10:17
Ora come ora puoi tenere 2 song insieme, confermo.

Rayvaughan
5th September 2009, 10:27
a parte il fatto di tenere 2 song insieme, la durata delle song è influenzata solo da spell duration

il fatto che prima non riuscivi a tenerle ed a livelli alti sì, dipende dalla casting speed che dipende dalla dex

GreenKnight
5th September 2009, 10:30
Colgo l'occasione per non aprire un altre 3ad.

avendo appena cinquantato il bardo..che spec mi consigliate (ovviamente per rvr) e quali le primissime RA da utilizzare?

Rayvaughan
5th September 2009, 10:35
1L5 - > sos 1
2L0 - > sos 1 purge 1
....
4L5 -> sos 1 purge 3
poi alzi dex, aom, magari un sos2, ecc

a me come spec finale piace

44 nurture (tutte le song che servono rosse, spec AF rossa, buff li cappi con pochissimi buff bonus)

32 regrowth (greater heal lvl 32 = 700+ hp curati a botta)

37 music (tutti i mezz che servono)

AceGentile
5th September 2009, 10:37
1L5 - > sos 1
2L0 - > sos 1 purge 1
....
5L5 -> sos 1 purge 3


a me come spec finale piace

44 nurture (tutte le song che servono rosse, spec AF rossa, buff li cappi con pochissimi buff bonus)

32 regrowth (greater heal lvl 32 = 700+ hp curati a botta)

37 music (tutti i mezz che servono)

e gli altri 10 punti ci pigli la ra che ti fa passare la pipness a 3 :confused:

Rayvaughan
5th September 2009, 10:39
porca puttena ace, ho modificato subbbito prima che appaia la scrittina edit by :rain:

GreenKnight
5th September 2009, 10:44
Grazieee :)

Rayvaughan
5th September 2009, 10:51
rispondo qui al pm, come template "ho fatto" questo ai tempi, con la medal of honor, non so quando la rimetteranno (GG mythic), almeno prendi spunto:

Stats
------------------------------------------------------------------------
STR: 0 / 75 INT: 0 / 75 Hits: 312 / 312 (+112)
CON: 75 / 75 PIE: 0 / 75 AF: 8 / 50
DEX: 102 / 101 (+26) EMP: 0 / 75 Pow: 0 / 36 (+10)
QUI: 0 / 75 CHA: 86 / 85 (+10) %PP: 16% / 35% (+10)

Resists
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Body: 27 / 26 Energy: 25 / 26 Crush: 27 / 26 (+2)
Cold: 31 / 26 Matter: 25 / 26 Slash: 26 / 26 (+3)
Heat: 26 / 26 Spirit: 27 / 26 (+5) Thrust: 27 / 26
Essence: 0 / 26

Other Bonuses
------------------------------------------------------------------------
10 / 10 Archery and Casting Speed
17 / 10 Archery and Spell Range
6 / 25 Duration of Spells
23 / 25 Healing Effectiveness
5 / 10 Spell Piercing
21 / 25 Stat Buff Effectiveness

item in spoiler
Piece Listing
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chest
Name: Dragonslayer Dirge Cailiocht Jerkin
Level: 51 Quality: 100 AF/DPS: 102 Bonus: 35
Slot 1: 22 Dexterity
Slot 2: 5 Cold Resist
Slot 3: 5 Heat Resist
Slot 4: 5 Spirit Resist
Slot 5: 4 Casting Speed
Slot 6: 22 Acuity
Slot 7: 4 Spell Range
Utility: 59.3


Arms
Name: Crafted Item2
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 Overcharge: 5,5
Gem 1: 25 Dexterity - Flawless Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 9 Slash Resist - Polished Watery Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 25 Constitution - Flawless Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 5 Matter Resist - Flawed Earthen Shielding Jewel
Utility: 61.3 SC Cost: 61g 98s 40c SC Price: 92g 97s 60c


Head
Name: Crafted Item3
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 Overcharge: 5,5
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - Flawless Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 68 Hits - Flawless Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Body Resist - Imperfect Dusty Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 7 Heat Resist - Imperfect Heated Shielding Jewel
Utility: 61.7 SC Cost: 59g 71s 60c SC Price: 89g 57s 40c


Legs
Name: Dragonslayer Dirge Cailiocht Legs
Level: 51 Quality: 80 AF/DPS: 102
Slot 1: 22 Dexterity
Slot 2: 5 Cold Resist
Slot 3: 5 Heat Resist
Slot 4: 5 Spirit Resist
Slot 5: 40 Hits
Slot 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Slot 7: 1 Casting Speed
Utility: 54.7


Hands
Name: Crafted Item5
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 Overcharge: 5
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - Flawless Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 7 Crush Resist - Imperfect Fiery Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 11 Thrust Resist - Faceted Airy Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 7 Charisma - Rough Icy Essence Jewel
Utility: 57.3 SC Cost: 43g 58s 40c SC Price: 65g 37s 60c


Feet
Name: Crafted Item6
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 Overcharge: 5
Gem 1: 68 Hits - Flawless Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 9 Crush Resist - Polished Fiery Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Energy Resist - Polished Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 5 Thrust Resist - Flawed Airy Shielding Jewel
Utility: 63.0 SC Cost: 45g 8s 80c SC Price: 67g 63s 20c


Ranged
Name: Drop Item10
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 15 Dexterity
Slot 2: 1 Crush Resist
Slot 3: 1 Thrust Resist
Slot 4: 1 Slash Resist
Slot 5: 1 Spirit Resist
Slot 6: 1 Energy Resist
Slot 7: 10 Dexterity Cap Increase
Slot 8: 10 Healing Effectiveness
Slot 9: 10 Stat Buff Effectiveness
Slot 10: 4 Spell Range
Utility: 20.0


Spare
Name: Drop Item11
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Slot 2: 5 Healing Effectiveness
Slot 3: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Slot 4: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Utility: 0.0


Neck
Name: Hibernia Medal of Honor
Level: 50 Quality: 100 Bonus: 35
Slot 1: 5 Body Resist
Slot 2: 5 Cold Resist
Slot 3: 5 Heat Resist
Slot 4: 5 Energy Resist
Slot 5: 5 Matter Resist
Slot 6: 5 Spirit Resist
Slot 7: 5 Crush Resist
Slot 8: 5 Thrust Resist
Slot 9: 5 Slash Resist
Utility: 90.0


Cloak
Name: Cloudsong
Level: 51 Quality: 100 Bonus: 35
Slot 1: 8 AF
Slot 2: 5 Stat Buff Effectiveness
Slot 3: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Slot 4: 5 Casting Speed
Slot 5: 5 Power Cap Increase
Slot 6: 5 % Power Pool
Slot 7: 12 Acuity
Utility: 8.0


Jewel
Name: egg
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 5 Slash Resist
Slot 2: 5 Thrust Resist
Slot 3: 5 Crush Resist
Slot 4: 12 Acuity
Slot 5: 32 Hits
Slot 6: 8 Healing Effectiveness
Slot 7: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 46.0


Belt
Name: jacina
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 5 % Power Pool
Slot 2: 5 Power Cap Increase
Slot 3: 6 Duration of Spells
Slot 4: 5 Spell Range
Slot 5: 6 Stat Buff Effectiveness
Slot 6: 5 Spell Piercing
Utility: 0.0


Left Ring
Name: Zahur's Ring
Level: 50 Quality: 80
Slot 1: 6 Body Resist
Slot 2: 6 Cold Resist
Slot 3: 6 Energy Resist
Slot 4: 6 Matter Resist
Slot 5: 6 Spirit Resist
Slot 6: 60 Hits
Utility: 75.0


Right Ring
Name: crocco
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 15 Acuity
Slot 2: 4 Body Resist
Slot 3: 4 Matter Resist
Slot 4: 4 Cold Resist
Slot 5: 4 Heat Resist
Slot 6: 4 Energy Resist
Utility: 50.0


Left Wrist
Name: Malevolent Darkspire Adroit Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 89
Slot 1: 18 Dexterity
Slot 2: 6 Cold Resist
Slot 3: 6 Slash Resist
Slot 4: 44 Hits
Slot 5: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Slot 6: 32 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 47.0


Right Wrist
Name: zoarkat
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 18 Acuity
Slot 2: 5 Body Resist
Slot 3: 5 Spirit Resist
Slot 4: 5 Matter Resist
Slot 5: 6 % Power Pool
Slot 6: 4 Spell Range
Utility: 42.0

altrimenti c'è questo senza che dovrebbe essere + facile

Statistic
Strength: 18/80
Constitution: 75/84
Dexterity: 102/100
Quickness: 0/75
Intelligence: 0/75
Piety: 0/75
Charisma: 79/85
Empathy: 0/75
Hits: 300/320
Power: 0/35

Resistance
Body: 26/26
Cold: 25/26
Heat: 25/26
Energy: 26/26
Matter: 16/26
Spirit: 29/26+5
Crush: 23/26+2
Thrust: 26/26
Slash: 25/26+3

Cap Increase
Strength: 5/26
Constitution: 9/26
Dexterity: 25/26
Charisma: 10/26
Hits: 120/200
Power: 10/50

TOA Bonus
Armour Factor: 9/50
Power Pool: 16/35
Buff Effectiveness: 21/25
Healing Effectiveness: 23/25
Spell Duration: 6/25
Casting Speed: 10/10
Spell Range: 17/10
Archery Range: 17/10
Archery Speed: 10/10
Style Damage: 4/10
Melee Damage: 4/10

Chest (Guard of Valor):
Imbue: 22.0
Strength: 18
Dexterity: 15
Hits: 40
Melee Damage: 4
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Casting Speed: 4
Style Damage: 4
Spell Range: 4
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 100.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Arms (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Constitution: 28
Cold: 9%
Dexterity: 28
Energy: 2%
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Utility: 59.3
TOA Utility: 10.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Head (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
Thrust: 9%
Dexterity: 22
Constitution: 22
Cold: 7%
Healing Effectiveness: 5
Utility: 61.3
TOA Utility: 10.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Legs (Dragonslayer Holy Osnadurtha Legs):
Imbue: 32.5
Dexterity: 22
Cold: 5%
Heat: 5%
Spirit: 5%
Hits: 40
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Casting Speed: 1
Utility: 54.7
TOA Utility: 15.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Hands (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Slash: 7%
Charisma: 22
Heat: 9%
Energy: 9%
Hits: 40
Utility: 74.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Feet (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Constitution: 25
Energy: 9%
Slash: 5%
Hits: 68
Acuity (Cap Increase): 5
Utility: 61.7
TOA Utility: 10.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Ranged (Dirge of Sheeroe Hills):
Imbue: 12.5
Spell Range: 4
Buff Effectiveness: 10
Healing Effectiveness: 10
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 10
Slash: 1%
Thrust: 1%
Crush: 1%
Spirit: 1%
Energy: 1%
Dexterity: 15
Utility: 20.0
TOA Utility: 80.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Neck (Paidrean Necklace):
Imbue: 45.0
Body: 10%
Spirit: 10%
Crush: 10%
Thrust: 10%
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Cloak (Cloudsong):
Imbue: 8.0
Armour Factor: 8
Buff Effectiveness: 5
Acuity (Cap Increase): 5
Casting Speed: 5
Power (Cap Increase): 5
Power Pool: 5
Acuity: 12
Utility: 8.0
TOA Utility: 73.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Jewel (Egg of Youth):
Imbue: 24.0
Crush: 5%
Thrust: 5%
Slash: 5%
Hits: 32
Healing Effectiveness: 8
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Acuity: 12
Utility: 46.0
TOA Utility: 26.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Belt (Jacina's Sash):
Imbue: 0.0
Buff Effectiveness: 6
Power (Cap Increase): 5
Power Pool: 5
Spell Range: 5
Spell Duration: 6
Utility: 0.0
TOA Utility: 69.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (Crocodile Tear Ring):
Imbue: 25.0
Body: 4%
Cold: 4%
Heat: 4%
Energy: 4%
Matter: 4%
Acuity: 15
Utility: 50.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (Trollstone Ring):
Imbue: 23.5
Body: 1%
Energy: 1%
Matter: 1%
Spirit: 1%
Crush: 1%
Thrust: 1%
Slash: 1%
Hits: 80
Constitution (Cap Increase): 9
Hits (Cap Increase): 80
Utility: 34.0
TOA Utility: 38.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (Bracelet of Zo'arkat):
Imbue: 24.0
Body: 5%
Matter: 5%
Spirit: 5%
Power Pool: 6
Acuity: 18
Spell Range: 4
Utility: 42.0
TOA Utility: 32.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (Bracer of Arawn):
Imbue: 38.5
Body: 6%
Heat: 7%
Matter: 6%
Spirit: 7%
Crush: 6%
Slash: 6%
Armour Factor: 1
Utility: 76.0
TOA Utility: 1.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Hador
5th September 2009, 10:53
madonna che livelli... dipende dal livello e da quanto è usato lo strumento, la dex non centra un cazzo di minchia, rayvongola :|
Strumento grigio, song quando levi strumento finisce subito, strumento lvl 50 dura di più. Se non ripari mai lo strumento è come se fosse grigio.

Rayvaughan
5th September 2009, 10:56
magari un tempo era così, ora io tengo l'arpa distrutta al 70% e le song durano esattamente nominale + spell duration

Hador
5th September 2009, 11:33
mettiti 2 strumenti grigi e vedi :nod:

Ipnotik
7th September 2009, 11:03
Spell duration influisce di sicuro ma se ricordo bene ultimamente hanno implementato per tutte le classi con chant / song l'utilizzo di 2 chant / song contemporaneamente.

mi sono scordato di dire che gioco in un server classic, quindi non ci sono spell duration e casting speed e 2 song contemporaneamente.

Quindi da cosa dipende?

Rayvaughan
7th September 2009, 11:12
tra qualche giorno non ci sarà più il classic

Ipnotik
7th September 2009, 12:24
tra qualche giorno non ci sarà più il classic


Uthgard rimarrà in eterno :nod:

Rayvaughan
7th September 2009, 12:53
ah ecco giochi su utgard, mica a daoc:rotfl:

normale che ci siano sti bug, qualunque consiglio ti diamo le formule sui quei server giocattolo saran sempre scazzate:sneer:

krieg
9th September 2009, 12:00
1L5 - > sos 1
2L0 - > sos 1 purge 1
....
4L5 -> sos 1 purge 3
poi alzi dex, aom, magari un sos2, ecc

Un bardo senza moc non si può vedere, nemmeno a rr bassi.
Al 2L5 -> sos1 purge1 moc1, poi metti punti a dex, respeccandola ogni volta che hai i punti per tirar su purge di un livello, e riprendi da dex.
Quando sei a sos1, moc1, purge3 e dex 3-4 ne riparliamo.

Rayvaughan
9th September 2009, 12:11
moc non l'ho calcolato perchè perlopiù l'ho usato in small man, e moc1 = 0 cure... se lo si gioca in fg è ovvio che quei 5 punti van spesi presto

dariuz
9th September 2009, 12:50
moc1 = 0 cure
moc1=chainrupt/smez non serve a curare

Rayvaughan
9th September 2009, 12:56
non so se sai leggere, ma se giochi in small man il bardo DEVE anche curare... o secondo te se l'eld ha uno zerk in charge addosso mentre tu bardo sei interruptato per qualsiasi motivo, è meglio tentare di mezzare in moc lo zerk ho tirar gran cure da 700 al caster?

dariuz
9th September 2009, 13:56
-edit-
ok ho appena capito cosa intendevi :sneer:

Kjoene
9th September 2009, 14:08
non so se sai leggere, ma se giochi in small man il bardo DEVE anche curare... o secondo te se l'eld ha uno zerk in charge addosso mentre tu bardo sei interruptato per qualsiasi motivo, è meglio tentare di mezzare in moc lo zerk ho tirar gran cure da 700 al caster?

Io la so ma non posso dirvela :nod: