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    Lo so che ci sono vari post che trattano questo ma vorrei raggrupparli in un unico post in modo da facilitarne la comprensione e la ricerca:
    Qual'è la migliore combinazione
    per il war?(razza spec etc. etc.).

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    e talenti pure plz

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    mha dalla mia esperienza, cambia poco da razza a razza la differenza sostanziale sta nel talento razziale, will of forsaken del non morto e lo stun del tauren son i migliori secondo me, per i talenti da quel che ho visto il più usato è

    31 arms resto fury (31 arms per mortal strike), appena ho tempo lo posto.

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    I tp piu in voga sono arms/fury e fury/arms
    Quelli arms/fury sono bene o male cosi con qualche piccola modifica:

    Arms Talents (31 points)

    # Improved Rend - 3/3 points
    Increases the bleed damage done by your Rend ability by 35%.

    # Deflection - 4/5 points
    Increases your Parry chance by 4%.

    # Tactical Mastery - 5/5 points
    You retain up to 25 of your rage points when you change stances.

    # Improved Charge - 2/2 points
    Increases the rage generated by your Charge ability by 6.

    # Anger Management - 1/1 point
    Increases the time required for your Rage to decay while out of combat by 30%.

    # Improved Overpower - 2/2 points
    Increases the critical strike chance of your Overpower ability by 50%.

    # Deep Wounds - 3/3 points
    Your critical strikes cause the opponent to bleed, dealing 60% of your melee weapon's average damage over 12 seconds.

    # Impale - 2/2 points
    Increases the critical strike damage done by your abilities in Battle, Defensive, and Berserker stance by 20%.

    # Sweeping Strikes - 1/1 point
    You next 5 melee weapon swings strike an additional nearby opponent.

    # Axe Specialization - 5/5 points
    Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Axes by 5%.

    # Improved Hamstring - 2/2 points
    Increases the movement slow effect of your Hamstring ability by 20%.

    # Mortal Strike - 1/1 point
    A vicious strike that deals 200% weapon damage and wounds the target, reducing the effectiveness of any healing by 50% for 10 seconds.



    Fury Talents (20 points)

    # Cruelty - 5/5 points
    Increases your chance to get a critical strike with melee weapons by 5%.

    # Booming Voice - 4/5 points
    Increases the duration of your Battle Shout and Demoralizing Shout by 40%.

    # Improved Demoralizing Shout - 5/5 points
    Increases the attack power reduction of your Demoralizing Shout by 25%.

    # Piercing Howl - 1/1 point
    Causes all enemies near the warrior to be dazed for 6 seconds.

    # Enrage - 5/5 points
    Gives you a 40% melee damage bonus for 4 swings any time you are the victim of a critical strike.


    E i tp fury dovrebbero essere piu o meno cosi , appena passa Boromir dara conferma:


    Arms Talents (18 points)

    # Improved Rend - 3/3 points
    Increases the bleed damage done by your Rend ability by 35%.

    # Deflection - 2/5 points
    Increases your Parry chance by 2%.

    # Tactical Mastery - 5/5 points
    You retain up to 25 of your rage points when you change stances.

    # Anger Management - 1/1 point
    Increases the time required for your Rage to decay while out of combat by 30%.

    # Deep Wounds - 3/3 points
    Your critical strikes cause the opponent to bleed, dealing 60% of your melee weapon's average damage over 12 seconds.

    # Improved Overpower - 2/2 points
    Increases the critical strike chance of your Overpower ability by 50%.

    # Impale - 2/2 points
    Increases the critical strike damage done by your abilities in Battle, Defensive, and Berserker stance by 20%.



    Fury Talents (33 points)

    # Cruelty - 5/5 points
    Increases your chance to get a critical strike with melee weapons by 5%.

    # Booming Voice - 4/5 points
    Increases the duration of your Battle Shout and Demoralizing Shout by 40%.

    # Improved Demoralizing Shout - 5/5 points
    Increases the attack power reduction of your Demoralizing Shout by 25%.

    # Piercing Howl - 1/1 point
    Causes all enemies near the warrior to be dazed for 6 seconds.

    # Enrage - 5/5 points
    Gives you a 40% melee damage bonus for 4 swings any time you are the victim of a critical strike.

    # Improved Execute - 2/2 points
    Reduces the Rage cost of your Execute ability by 5.

    # Improved Intercept - 2/2 points
    Reduces the cooldown of your Intercept ability by 10 seconds.

    # Death Wish - 1/1 point
    When activated, increases your melee damage by 20% and makes you immune to fear, but lowers your defense against all types of damage by 20%. Lasts 30 seconds.

    # Flurry - 5/5 points
    Increases your attack speed by 30% for your next 3 swings after dealing a critical strike.

    # Improved Berserker Rage - 2/2 points
    Increases the duration of your Berserker Rage ability by 6 seconds.

    # Bloodthirst - 1/1 point
    Activates after dealing a killing blow. Your next melee weapon attack deals a 100% increased damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayk & Ronerd
    I tp piu in voga sono arms/fury e fury/arms
    Quelli arms/fury sono bene o male cosi con qualche piccola modifica:

    Arms Talents (31 points)

    # Improved Rend - 3/3 points
    Increases the bleed damage done by your Rend ability by 35%.

    # Deflection - 4/5 points
    Increases your Parry chance by 4%.

    # Tactical Mastery - 5/5 points
    You retain up to 25 of your rage points when you change stances.

    # Improved Charge - 2/2 points
    Increases the rage generated by your Charge ability by 6.

    # Anger Management - 1/1 point
    Increases the time required for your Rage to decay while out of combat by 30%.

    # Improved Overpower - 2/2 points
    Increases the critical strike chance of your Overpower ability by 50%.

    # Deep Wounds - 3/3 points
    Your critical strikes cause the opponent to bleed, dealing 60% of your melee weapon's average damage over 12 seconds.

    # Impale - 2/2 points
    Increases the critical strike damage done by your abilities in Battle, Defensive, and Berserker stance by 20%.

    # Sweeping Strikes - 1/1 point
    You next 5 melee weapon swings strike an additional nearby opponent.

    # Axe Specialization - 5/5 points
    Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Axes by 5%.

    # Improved Hamstring - 2/2 points
    Increases the movement slow effect of your Hamstring ability by 20%.

    # Mortal Strike - 1/1 point
    A vicious strike that deals 200% weapon damage and wounds the target, reducing the effectiveness of any healing by 50% for 10 seconds.



    Fury Talents (20 points)

    # Cruelty - 5/5 points
    Increases your chance to get a critical strike with melee weapons by 5%.

    # Booming Voice - 4/5 points
    Increases the duration of your Battle Shout and Demoralizing Shout by 40%.

    # Improved Demoralizing Shout - 5/5 points
    Increases the attack power reduction of your Demoralizing Shout by 25%.

    # Piercing Howl - 1/1 point
    Causes all enemies near the warrior to be dazed for 6 seconds.

    # Enrage - 5/5 points
    Gives you a 40% melee damage bonus for 4 swings any time you are the victim of a critical strike.


    E i tp fury dovrebbero essere piu o meno cosi , appena passa Boromir dara conferma:


    Arms Talents (18 points)

    # Improved Rend - 3/3 points
    Increases the bleed damage done by your Rend ability by 35%.

    # Deflection - 2/5 points
    Increases your Parry chance by 2%.

    # Tactical Mastery - 5/5 points
    You retain up to 25 of your rage points when you change stances.

    # Anger Management - 1/1 point
    Increases the time required for your Rage to decay while out of combat by 30%.

    # Deep Wounds - 3/3 points
    Your critical strikes cause the opponent to bleed, dealing 60% of your melee weapon's average damage over 12 seconds.

    # Improved Overpower - 2/2 points
    Increases the critical strike chance of your Overpower ability by 50%.

    # Impale - 2/2 points
    Increases the critical strike damage done by your abilities in Battle, Defensive, and Berserker stance by 20%.



    Fury Talents (33 points)

    # Cruelty - 5/5 points
    Increases your chance to get a critical strike with melee weapons by 5%.

    # Booming Voice - 4/5 points
    Increases the duration of your Battle Shout and Demoralizing Shout by 40%.

    # Improved Demoralizing Shout - 5/5 points
    Increases the attack power reduction of your Demoralizing Shout by 25%.

    # Piercing Howl - 1/1 point
    Causes all enemies near the warrior to be dazed for 6 seconds.

    # Enrage - 5/5 points
    Gives you a 40% melee damage bonus for 4 swings any time you are the victim of a critical strike.

    # Improved Execute - 2/2 points
    Reduces the Rage cost of your Execute ability by 5.

    # Improved Intercept - 2/2 points
    Reduces the cooldown of your Intercept ability by 10 seconds.

    # Death Wish - 1/1 point
    When activated, increases your melee damage by 20% and makes you immune to fear, but lowers your defense against all types of damage by 20%. Lasts 30 seconds.

    # Flurry - 5/5 points
    Increases your attack speed by 30% for your next 3 swings after dealing a critical strike.

    # Improved Berserker Rage - 2/2 points
    Increases the duration of your Berserker Rage ability by 6 seconds.

    # Bloodthirst - 1/1 point
    Activates after dealing a killing blow. Your next melee weapon attack deals a 100% increased damage.

    boroming ç_ç

    si cmq sti qua sono i tp piu in voga...
    volend oce anche quello defensive... che nonostante tutto rende anche in pvp... perke ha una marea di stun (se poi lo fai tauren...) ed è un muro... avere 6k di af vul dire avere piu del 50% di abs..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boroming
    boroming ç_ç

    si cmq sti qua sono i tp piu in voga...
    volend oce anche quello defensive... che nonostante tutto rende anche in pvp... perke ha una marea di stun (se poi lo fai tauren...) ed è un muro... avere 6k di af vul dire avere piu del 50% di abs..

    quale sarebbe quello defensive?

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    razza secondo me l orco

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arakno
    razza secondo me l orco
    la piu inadatta a un war... almeno in pve l'ablita razziale e inutilizzabile... essendo il tank primario nn puoi permetterti di buttare vita per il 25% di forza...
    in pvp preferisco senz'altro bloodrage.... ed usarli entrambi vuole dire suicidio
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    imho questo non è daoc quindi la razza è quella che più piace esteticamente ^^ o ha un'abilità razziale più utile (tipo io ho fatto ud ma invidio i tauren per come stanno con la plate io sembro uno straccione )

    perlomeno questo è quello che leggo dai forum us eu.
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    Io ho fatto elfo spada 2h(forse farò DW ma nn credo) e come talenti credo di scegliere qualcosa di simile al primo modello postato voi che ne pensate?

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    Il primo rende al meglio con critico alto , per cui con ascia
    Spada va sempre bene , in beta ero speccato cosi , ma il doppio colpo non lo vedevo tanto spesso e su Ms mi pare non possa proccare per cui ho preferito piu possibilita' di critico per fare piu rage e piu danno con Ms ( cozio l'altro ieri un war di 60 mi ha mollato 1300 di Ms e stavo con 3400 di armor )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayk & Ronerd
    Il primo rende al meglio con critico alto , per cui con ascia
    Spada va sempre bene , in beta ero speccato cosi , ma il doppio colpo non lo vedevo tanto spesso e su Ms mi pare non possa proccare per cui ho preferito piu possibilita' di critico per fare piu rage e piu danno con Ms ( cozio l'altro ieri un war di 60 mi ha mollato 1300 di Ms e stavo con 3400 di armor )
    Lol...



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    Ah.. volevo chiedere una cosa (nn centra niente ma è uguale ),
    Come faccio ad avere una firma come quella di boroming per esempio?
    Me la devo fare o è un opzione del forum??



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    Razza per alleanza : Nano o in alternativa Gnomo , il primo per le ottime stats iniziali che , anche se diventano sempre meno influenti con l'aumentare del livello , mantengono un po' di differenza anche al 60 e l'abilità razziale può aiutare in alcune situazioni, Gnomo per l'abilità che gli permette di togliersi 1 effetto di root/snare il problema è che non è istantanea ma è tipo un cast perciò non è cosi' forte come sembra imho.

    Razza per orda : sicuramente Tauren , per la stamina maggiorata ma soprattutto per l'abilità di razza che è troppo sgravata.

    Sui template la penso esattamente come Ronerd per ora sono speccato arms (31) fury (20) ma non nascondo che il template misto mi attragga molto , ci avevo gia pensato ma per ora non voglio rinunciare alla % di critico ma soprattutto a ms il cui debuff non ha bisogno di commenti.

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    ieri in uno scontro pvp... io speccato 33 fury 18 arms... sego un castr in 5 swing... si attiva bloodthirth meno il prete che skifo il primo colpo é_é

    overpower + 100% danno di bloodthirth + critico di overpower ..... 890 danni di 1h é_é

    queste sono le cose che mi piacciono D

    in sti casi avrei dovuto switcha 2h... ma ho la skill bassa ancora... sarebbero stati 1200 danni asd

    in pvp il miss rate di dw nn si sente.. con sta patch lo hanno abbassato notevolmente (in pve sono passato da 24-25% a 13-16%)... quindi sono pi uche soddisfatto.... l'unica pekka è il fatto che a volte nn riesco a scaricare la rage e mi tocca usare heroic strike, perke dw fury genera davvero troppa rage é_é

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