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    Vi posto il mio tp per vedere se qualcuno ha qualche suggerimento per migliorarlo.
    Premessa io penso di usarlo in gruppo in assist e in bg su un caster ma non vorrei farlo diventare troppo scarso in melee; btw il costo è un problema (ho giusto i soldi per la collana)
    LOKI Build Report
    Name: ThorelloWork
    Race: Dwarf
    Class: Thane
    Level: 50
    Custom
    Item Utility: 963.8
    Build Utility: 1033.8
    Useable Utility: 991.8
    TOA Utility: 335.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Statistic
    Strength: 100/100
    Constitution: 73/75
    Dexterity: 80/90
    Quickness: 71/75
    Intelligence: 0/75
    Piety: 80/82
    Charisma: 0/75
    Empathy: 0/75
    Hits: 366/368
    Power: 0/25
    Resistance
    Body: 22/26+5
    Cold: 35/26
    Heat: 32/26
    Energy: 24/26
    Matter: 20/26
    Spirit: 26/26
    Crush: 29/26
    Thrust: 29/26+3
    Slash: 22/26+2
    Skill
    Axe: 7/11
    Hammer: 7/11
    Parry: 3/11
    Shield: 11/11
    Sword: 11/11
    Cap Increase
    Strength: 25/26
    Dexterity: 15/26
    Piety: 7/26
    Hits: 168/200
    TOA Bonus
    Armour Factor: 21/50
    Casting Speed: 4/10
    Spell Range: 4/10
    Spell Damage: 8/10
    Archery Damage: 8/10
    Archery Range: 4/10
    Archery Speed: 4/10
    Style Damage: 4/10
    Melee Damage: 4/10
    Melee Combat Speed: 10/10
    Fatigue: 4/25
    Chest (Dragonslayer Thane):
    Imbue: 27.0
    Strength: 15
    Dexterity: 15
    Cold: 5%
    Heat: 5%
    Spirit: 5%
    Melee Damage: 4
    Style Damage: 4
    Spell Range: 4
    Spell Damage: 4
    Utility: 50.0
    TOA Utility: 80.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Arms (Crafted):
    Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
    Energy: 9%
    Spirit: 7%
    Dexterity: 22
    Body: 9%
    Hits: 40
    Utility: 74.7
    TOA Utility: 0.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Head (Crafted):
    Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 99)
    Piety: 22
    Strength: 22
    Quickness: 22
    Constitution: 22
    Quickness: 15
    Utility: 68.7
    TOA Utility: 0.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Legs (Crafted):
    Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
    Piety: 22
    Hits: 60
    Sword: 4
    Shield: 4
    Strength (Cap Increase): 5
    Utility: 69.7
    TOA Utility: 10.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Hands (Crafted):
    Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
    Dexterity: 28
    Quickness: 19
    Shield: 2
    Hits: 76
    Dexterity: 15
    Utility: 70.3
    TOA Utility: 0.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Feet (Dragon's Blood Boots):
    Imbue: 31.0
    Cold: 3%
    Heat: 3%
    Energy: 3%
    Matter: 3%
    Spirit: 3%
    Hits: 40
    Spell Damage: 4
    Acuity (Cap Increase): 7
    Hits (Cap Increase): 45
    Acuity: 24
    Utility: 56.0
    TOA Utility: 45.3
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Right Hand (Gjalpinulva's Claw):
    Imbue: 12.5
    Strength: 15
    Body: 1%
    Cold: 1%
    Crush: 1%
    Thrust: 1%
    Slash: 1%
    Strength (Cap Increase): 10
    Dexterity (Cap Increase): 10
    Utility: 20.0
    TOA Utility: 40.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Left Hand (Bewitched draconic shield):
    Imbue: 31.5
    Strength: 15
    Shield: 5
    Slash: 1%
    Crush: 1%
    Thrust: 1%
    ALL melee weapon skills: 3
    Strength (Cap Increase): 5
    Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
    Melee Combat Speed: 3
    Armour Factor: 10
    Utility: 56.0
    TOA Utility: 45.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Neck (Luminescent Diamond Necklace):
    Imbue: 46.5
    Constitution: 12
    Cold: 6%
    Heat: 6%
    Matter: 6%
    Crush: 6%
    Thrust: 6%
    Slash: 6%
    Hits: 30
    Hits (Cap Increase): 35
    Acuity: 12
    Utility: 95.5
    TOA Utility: 8.8
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Cloak (Shades of Mist):
    Imbue: 20.0
    Parry: 3
    Strength: 15
    Quickness: 15
    Armour Factor: 10
    Melee Combat Speed: 5
    Fatigue: 4
    Utility: 35.0
    TOA Utility: 43.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Jewel (Eerie Darkness Stone):
    Imbue: 37.0
    Body: 5%
    Cold: 5%
    Heat: 5%
    Energy: 5%
    Matter: 5%
    Spirit: 5%
    Crush: 4%
    Slash: 4%
    Thrust: 4%
    Utility: 84.0
    TOA Utility: 0.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Belt (Cenzia's Belt of Reason):
    Imbue: 38.5
    Body: 7%
    Cold: 6%
    Heat: 6%
    Energy: 7%
    Matter: 6%
    Spirit: 6%
    Armour Factor: 1
    Utility: 76.0
    TOA Utility: 1.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Left Ring (Atlethys's' ring of resolve):
    Imbue: 36.5
    Constitution: 21
    ALL melee weapon skills: 4
    Heat: 7%
    Cold: 9%
    Melee Combat Speed: 2
    Utility: 66.0
    TOA Utility: 10.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Right Ring (RIng of the Torrent):
    Imbue: 38.0
    Thrust: 10%
    Slash: 10%
    Crush: 11%
    Casting Speed: 2
    Utility: 62.0
    TOA Utility: 10.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Left Wrist (Ceremonial Bracer Str):
    Imbue: 22.0
    Strength: 18
    Hits: 40
    Strength (Cap Increase): 5
    Hits (Cap Increase): 40
    Crush: 6%
    Utility: 34.0
    TOA Utility: 20.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Right Wrist (Bracer of Heavenly Bodies):
    Imbue: 32.0
    Constitution: 18
    Thrust: 7%
    Hits: 80
    Casting Speed: 2
    Hits (Cap Increase): 48
    Utility: 46.0
    TOA Utility: 22.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosc View Post
    Vi posto il mio tp per vedere se qualcuno ha qualche suggerimento per migliorarlo.
    Premessa io penso di usarlo in gruppo in assist e in bg su un caster ma non vorrei farlo diventare troppo scarso in melee; btw il costo è un problema (ho giusto i soldi per la collana)
    LOKI Build Report
    Name: ThorelloWork
    Race: Dwarf
    Class: Thane
    Level: 50
    Custom
    Item Utility: 963.8
    Build Utility: 1033.8
    Useable Utility: 991.8
    TOA Utility: 335.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Statistic
    Strength: 100/100
    Constitution: 73/75
    Dexterity: 80/90
    Quickness: 71/75
    Intelligence: 0/75
    Piety: 80/82
    Charisma: 0/75
    Empathy: 0/75
    Hits: 366/368
    Power: 0/25
    Resistance
    Body: 22/26+5
    Cold: 35/26
    Heat: 32/26
    Energy: 24/26
    Matter: 20/26
    Spirit: 26/26
    Crush: 29/26
    Thrust: 29/26+3
    Slash: 22/26+2
    Skill
    Axe: 7/11
    Hammer: 7/11
    Parry: 3/11
    Shield: 11/11
    Sword: 11/11
    Cap Increase
    Strength: 25/26
    Dexterity: 15/26
    Piety: 7/26
    Hits: 168/200
    TOA Bonus
    Armour Factor: 21/50
    Casting Speed: 4/10
    Spell Range: 4/10
    Spell Damage: 8/10
    Archery Damage: 8/10
    Archery Range: 4/10
    Archery Speed: 4/10
    Style Damage: 4/10
    Melee Damage: 4/10
    Melee Combat Speed: 10/10
    Fatigue: 4/25
    Chest (Dragonslayer Thane):
    Imbue: 27.0
    Strength: 15
    Dexterity: 15
    Cold: 5%
    Heat: 5%
    Spirit: 5%
    Melee Damage: 4
    Style Damage: 4
    Spell Range: 4
    Spell Damage: 4
    Utility: 50.0
    TOA Utility: 80.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Arms (Crafted):
    Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
    Energy: 9%
    Spirit: 7%
    Dexterity: 22
    Body: 9%
    Hits: 40
    Utility: 74.7
    TOA Utility: 0.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Head (Crafted):
    Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 99)
    Piety: 22
    Strength: 22
    Quickness: 22
    Constitution: 22
    Quickness: 15
    Utility: 68.7
    TOA Utility: 0.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Legs (Crafted):
    Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
    Piety: 22
    Hits: 60
    Sword: 4
    Shield: 4
    Strength (Cap Increase): 5
    Utility: 69.7
    TOA Utility: 10.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Hands (Crafted):
    Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
    Dexterity: 28
    Quickness: 19
    Shield: 2
    Hits: 76
    Dexterity: 15
    Utility: 70.3
    TOA Utility: 0.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Feet (Dragon's Blood Boots):
    Imbue: 31.0
    Cold: 3%
    Heat: 3%
    Energy: 3%
    Matter: 3%
    Spirit: 3%
    Hits: 40
    Spell Damage: 4
    Acuity (Cap Increase): 7
    Hits (Cap Increase): 45
    Acuity: 24
    Utility: 56.0
    TOA Utility: 45.3
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Right Hand (Gjalpinulva's Claw):
    Imbue: 12.5
    Strength: 15
    Body: 1%
    Cold: 1%
    Crush: 1%
    Thrust: 1%
    Slash: 1%
    Strength (Cap Increase): 10
    Dexterity (Cap Increase): 10
    Utility: 20.0
    TOA Utility: 40.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Left Hand (Bewitched draconic shield):
    Imbue: 31.5
    Strength: 15
    Shield: 5
    Slash: 1%
    Crush: 1%
    Thrust: 1%
    ALL melee weapon skills: 3
    Strength (Cap Increase): 5
    Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
    Melee Combat Speed: 3
    Armour Factor: 10
    Utility: 56.0
    TOA Utility: 45.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Neck (Luminescent Diamond Necklace):
    Imbue: 46.5
    Constitution: 12
    Cold: 6%
    Heat: 6%
    Matter: 6%
    Crush: 6%
    Thrust: 6%
    Slash: 6%
    Hits: 30
    Hits (Cap Increase): 35
    Acuity: 12
    Utility: 95.5
    TOA Utility: 8.8
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Cloak (Shades of Mist):
    Imbue: 20.0
    Parry: 3
    Strength: 15
    Quickness: 15
    Armour Factor: 10
    Melee Combat Speed: 5
    Fatigue: 4
    Utility: 35.0
    TOA Utility: 43.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Jewel (Eerie Darkness Stone):
    Imbue: 37.0
    Body: 5%
    Cold: 5%
    Heat: 5%
    Energy: 5%
    Matter: 5%
    Spirit: 5%
    Crush: 4%
    Slash: 4%
    Thrust: 4%
    Utility: 84.0
    TOA Utility: 0.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Belt (Cenzia's Belt of Reason):
    Imbue: 38.5
    Body: 7%
    Cold: 6%
    Heat: 6%
    Energy: 7%
    Matter: 6%
    Spirit: 6%
    Armour Factor: 1
    Utility: 76.0
    TOA Utility: 1.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Left Ring (Atlethys's' ring of resolve):
    Imbue: 36.5
    Constitution: 21
    ALL melee weapon skills: 4
    Heat: 7%
    Cold: 9%
    Melee Combat Speed: 2
    Utility: 66.0
    TOA Utility: 10.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Right Ring (RIng of the Torrent):
    Imbue: 38.0
    Thrust: 10%
    Slash: 10%
    Crush: 11%
    Casting Speed: 2
    Utility: 62.0
    TOA Utility: 10.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Left Wrist (Ceremonial Bracer Str):
    Imbue: 22.0
    Strength: 18
    Hits: 40
    Strength (Cap Increase): 5
    Hits (Cap Increase): 40
    Crush: 6%
    Utility: 34.0
    TOA Utility: 20.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Right Wrist (Bracer of Heavenly Bodies):
    Imbue: 32.0
    Constitution: 18
    Thrust: 7%
    Hits: 80
    Casting Speed: 2
    Hits (Cap Increase): 48
    Utility: 46.0
    TOA Utility: 22.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    pochi pezzi dragonslayer niente resist pierce...
    queste sono le prime cose che mi saltano in mente xo immagino tu nn abbia a disposizione quantità di P esorbitanti per inserire bracciali del drago et simili

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    pezzi slayer non se ne fa un cazzo in gruppo, penso sia un buon tippi perchè tp da thane son tipo i + cari che esistano

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayvaughan View Post
    pezzi slayer non se ne fa un cazzo in gruppo, penso sia un buon tippi perchè tp da thane son tipo i + cari che esistano
    nn avevo letto gruppo
    beh ma resist pierce resta cmq un must...
    si infatti se nn ha P da spendere questo va bene ma con qualche ogg coi controcazzi pompa di sicuro i toa..

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    intanto grazie per le risposte.. solo una cosa la spada non mi da 5% spell pierce? o sbaglio qualcosa io?
    Edit: meglio questo? solo 97 forza e un po' meno pf ma 10 spell pierce (Gjalpinulva e Atlantis Tablet)
    LOKI Build Report
    Name: ThorelloWork
    Race: Dwarf
    Class: Thane
    Level: 50

    Custom
    Item Utility: 936.9
    Build Utility: 1006.9
    Useable Utility: 992.9
    TOA Utility: 372.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0

    Statistic
    Strength: 97/100
    Constitution: 73/75
    Dexterity: 80/90
    Quickness: 74/75
    Intelligence: 0/75
    Piety: 79/82
    Charisma: 0/75
    Empathy: 0/75
    Hits: 305/400
    Power: 0/25

    Resistance
    Body: 24/26+5
    Cold: 31/26
    Heat: 28/26
    Energy: 24/26
    Matter: 25/26
    Spirit: 24/26
    Crush: 25/26
    Thrust: 25/26+3
    Slash: 25/26+2

    Skill
    Axe: 7/11
    Hammer: 7/11
    Parry: 3/11
    Shield: 9/11
    Stormcalling: 3/11
    Sword: 11/11

    Cap Increase
    Strength: 25/26
    Dexterity: 15/26
    Piety: 7/26
    Hits: 203/200

    TOA Bonus
    Armour Factor: 30/50
    Power Pool: 10/25
    Casting Speed: 4/10
    Spell Range: 4/10
    Spell Damage: 8/10
    Archery Damage: 8/10
    Archery Range: 4/10
    Archery Speed: 4/10
    Style Damage: 4/10
    Melee Damage: 4/10
    Melee Combat Speed: 10/10
    Fatigue: 4/25

    Chest (Dragonslayer Thane):
    Imbue: 27.0
    Strength: 15
    Dexterity: 15
    Cold: 5%
    Heat: 5%
    Spirit: 5%
    Melee Damage: 4
    Style Damage: 4
    Spell Range: 4
    Spell Damage: 4
    Utility: 50.0
    TOA Utility: 80.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0

    Arms (Crafted):
    Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
    Quickness: 22
    Shield: 4
    Constitution: 22
    Sword: 4
    Hits: 40
    Utility: 79.3
    TOA Utility: 0.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0

    Head (Crafted):
    Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 99)
    Dexterity: 25
    Strength: 19
    Spirit: 9%
    Energy: 7%
    Quickness: 15
    Utility: 71.3
    TOA Utility: 0.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0

    Legs (Crafted):
    Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
    Energy: 7%
    Quickness: 22
    Matter: 9%
    Body: 9%
    Strength (Cap Increase): 5
    Utility: 64.7
    TOA Utility: 10.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0

    Hands (Crafted):
    Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
    Dexterity: 25
    Body: 7%
    Slash: 7%
    Piety: 25
    Dexterity: 15
    Utility: 71.3
    TOA Utility: 0.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0

    Feet (Dragon's Blood Boots):
    Imbue: 31.0
    Cold: 3%
    Heat: 3%
    Energy: 3%
    Matter: 3%
    Spirit: 3%
    Hits: 40
    Spell Damage: 4
    Acuity (Cap Increase): 7
    Hits (Cap Increase): 40
    Acuity: 24
    Utility: 56.0
    TOA Utility: 44.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0

    Right Hand (Gjalpinulva's Claw):
    Imbue: 12.5
    Strength: 15
    Body: 1%
    Cold: 1%
    Crush: 1%
    Thrust: 1%
    Slash: 1%
    Strength (Cap Increase): 10
    Dexterity (Cap Increase): 10
    Power Pool: 10
    Utility: 20.0
    TOA Utility: 60.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0

    Left Hand (Bewitched draconic shield):
    Imbue: 31.5
    Strength: 15
    Shield: 5
    Slash: 1%
    Crush: 1%
    Thrust: 1%
    ALL melee weapon skills: 3
    Strength (Cap Increase): 5
    Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
    Melee Combat Speed: 3
    Armour Factor: 10
    Utility: 56.0
    TOA Utility: 45.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0

    Neck (Luminescent Diamond Necklace):
    Imbue: 46.5
    Constitution: 12
    Cold: 6%
    Heat: 6%
    Matter: 6%
    Crush: 6%
    Thrust: 6%
    Slash: 6%
    Hits: 30
    Hits (Cap Increase): 35
    Acuity: 12
    Utility: 95.5
    TOA Utility: 8.8
    PvE Utility: 0.0

    Cloak (Shades of Mist):
    Imbue: 20.0
    Parry: 3
    Strength: 15
    Quickness: 15
    Armour Factor: 10
    Melee Combat Speed: 5
    Fatigue: 4
    Utility: 35.0
    TOA Utility: 43.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0

    Jewel (Atlantis Tablet):
    Imbue: 22.0
    Acuity: 18
    ALL magic skills: 3
    Hits: 40
    Armour Factor: 10
    Utility: 37.0
    TOA Utility: 10.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0

    Belt (Soulbinder's Belt):
    Imbue: 46.0
    Body: 7%
    Cold: 7%
    Heat: 7%
    Energy: 7%
    Matter: 7%
    Spirit: 7%
    Hits: 35
    Hits (Cap Increase): 40
    Utility: 92.8
    TOA Utility: 10.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0

    Left Ring (RIng of the Torrent):
    Imbue: 38.0
    Thrust: 10%
    Slash: 10%
    Crush: 11%
    Casting Speed: 2
    Utility: 62.0
    TOA Utility: 10.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0

    Right Ring (Atlethys's' ring of resolve):
    Imbue: 36.5
    Constitution: 21
    ALL melee weapon skills: 4
    Heat: 7%
    Cold: 9%
    Melee Combat Speed: 2
    Utility: 66.0
    TOA Utility: 10.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0

    Left Wrist (Ceremonial Bracer Str):
    Imbue: 22.0
    Strength: 18
    Hits: 40
    Strength (Cap Increase): 5
    Hits (Cap Increase): 40
    Crush: 6%
    Utility: 34.0
    TOA Utility: 20.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0

    Right Wrist (Bracer of Heavenly Bodies):
    Imbue: 32.0
    Constitution: 18
    Thrust: 7%
    Hits: 80
    Casting Speed: 2
    Hits (Cap Increase): 48
    Utility: 46.0
    TOA Utility: 22.0
    PvE Utility: 0.0
    Last edited by rosc; 3rd November 2009 at 14:39.
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    Ma se metti la moh invece della luminescent, e usi i soldi per comprare un caster bracer ?

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    ma sei speccato melee? -.-'
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    Adesso ho un altro tp. Quando (se) farò questo faro 50 storm, 42 shield e 39 sword,
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    premetto che di Thane e midd ne sò poco o nulla, ma a prima vista, io toglierei il SOM, e metterei sù un Antalya o un mantello del drago, toglierei la AT e metterei la GOLM e per il resist pierce non avete i bracciali di halloween che danno 2/3%?
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    lascia il bigliettino: mamma sgildo.
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    ma perchè mettete la golm ovunque ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fi$iCo View Post
    ma perchè mettete la golm ovunque ?
    gusti, io non la trovo così necessaria

    e cmq al thane serve spell pircing, AT >> all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayvaughan View Post
    gusti, io non la trovo così necessaria
    e cmq al thane serve spell pircing, AT >> all

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