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    Quote Originally Posted by Kahvirel
    The Xbox 720 will not be called that when it is finally announced. Instead, Microsoft will be reverting to the name of its first games console released 11 years ago, Xbox.

    In addition, it will be seen as a hub to a number of devices to carry an "X" branding, one of which will be the much-rumoured 7-inch gaming tablet, which Pocket-lint has learnt will be called X-Surface, not Xbox Surface as previously thought.

    The X-Surface will not be a Windows 8 or Windows RT device, we have been told by a tipster very close to the project who, naturally, wishes to remain anonymous. Instead, it will be a standalone portable gaming system. On launch, we are informed, it will be able to access the games, music and video hubs of the new Xbox, but will not have any apps of its own. It will not have a desktop as part of its operating system, rather be entirely focused on playing full console-quality games.

    Although there are no technical specifications touted, we have also been told that the X-Surface tablet has much improved hardware over a Surface RT. With the source claiming that he/she "witnessed Unreal Engine 3 demos running at a solid 60fps".

    There are also unconfirmed rumours that the X-Surface will have a proprietary 2.4GHz wireless protocol for compatibility with Xbox 360 controllers and, it is said, future control devices.

    As for the "Xbox" itself, the tipster has confirmed some of the specifications previously leaked. "The majority of information leaked recently by many sources is true," Pocket-lint was told.

    Microsoft is working with AMD on the central and graphics processors. The CPU will be 8-core, as previously rumoured, although each core will be running at 1.9GHz instead of the 1.6GHz reported. The rumours on the graphics trip were true, being an 800MHz GPU. "One benchmark used internally has been a custom build Watch Dogs E3 demo which runs at 55-60fps with only five cores at 100 per cent," we were told.

    We've seen Ubisoft's Watch Dogs demo running on a super powered PC at E3 2012, so if this is true, the Xbox's graphical prowess will be most impressive.

    One incorrect former rumour about the new Xbox that has been quashed by the tipster is that one of the cores will be dedicated to running the operating system. The OS will have a similar look to Windows 8, with moveable tiles, but won't be literally using that software. It will also require two-cores to run, as it will remain active in the background in order to provide full multitasking functionality. "Very much akin to Nintendo's offerings on 3DS and Wii U - but on a far larger scale," explained the source.

    A couple of the features of multitasking explained to us include video calling in games (with users able to determine which corner of the screen to place the feed), and the ability to take screengrabs to save to hard drive or SkyDrive.

    The source hasn't had access to the new Xbox controller, but says that button placement must be the same considering a normal Xbox 360 controller has been used in development. It will look different however, we have been told, as two design teams have been working on the controller alone.

    Naturally, when a tipster is anonymous, there is some degree of trepidation attached to believing what they say verbatim. However, considering the facts Pocket-lint has been given, and the lack of outlandish claims, everything our source says is plausible.

    What we haven't yet learnt is when the console will be launched, at E3 or a separate dedicated event.
    http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/4945...xbox-x-surface

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    Nuovi rumor, nuove spec per la Ps4

    http://kotaku.com/5977849/the-playst...e-specs-so-far

    SPECS

    We'll begin with the specs. And before we go any further, know that these are current specs for a PS4 development kit, not the final retail console itself. So while the general gist of the things you see here may be similar to what makes it into the actual commercial hardware, there's every chance some—if not all of it—changes, if only slightly.

    That being the case, here's what we know is inside PS4 development kits—model # DVKT-KS000K—as of January 2013. As you'll see, some things have changed since earlier kits became available in March 2012.

    System Memory: 8GB
    Video Memory: 2.2 GB
    CPU: 4x Dual-Core AMD64 "Bulldozer" (so, 8x cores)
    GPU: AMD R10xx
    Ports: 4x USB 3.0, 2x Ethernet
    Drive: Blu-Ray
    HDD: 160GB
    Audio Output: HDMI & Optical, 2.0, 5.1 & 7.1 channels
    If you think the HDD is small, remember, these are the specs for a machine that developers are using to make games on, not the console you'll own and be storing media on. And don't worry about having two ethernet ports; as this is a dev kit, one is there for local sharing/testing purposes.

    Interestingly, while some of these specs (such as the 8x core CPU) match with those reported by Digital Foundry only a few days ago, others like the RAM (DF reported 4GB of GDDR5, while we've heard 8GB) differ.

    We've learned there's a headphone jack on the front of the console, but it's unclear whether that's just for dev kits or is an intended feature of the final retail console.
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    gratz.

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    Ahahahahaha gg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaider View Post
    mi sembra succeda tutti gli anni da almeno 5 anni

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    Due robe che stan facendo esplodere internet (VG side)

    1) - Shuhei Yoshida (presidente sony worldwide studios) Twitta:



    Poi ritratta immediatamente:



    Gaffe megagalattica? Speriamo! XD

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    2) - Il creatore di FXAA che dice in un lungo post "Nuovo Xbox merda e PS4 anni luce meglio di un pc (per i giochi) "

    http://timothylottes.blogspot.fr/201...d-durango.html

    Tl;dr:

    PS4

    "The real reason to get excited about a PS4 is what Sony as a company does with the OS and system libraries as a platform, and what this enables 1st party studios to do, when they make PS4-only games. If PS4 has a real-time OS, with a libGCM style low level access to the GPU, then the PS4 1st party games will be years ahead of the PC simply because it opens up what is possible on the GPU. Note this won't happen right away on launch, but once developers tool up for the platform, this will be the case. As a PC guy who knows hardware to the metal, I spend most of my days in frustration knowing damn well what I could do with the hardware, but what I cannot do because Microsoft and IHVs wont provide low-level GPU access in PC APIs. One simple example, drawcalls on PC have easily 10x to 100x the overhead of a console with a libGCM style API."

    Xbox720

    "Working here assuming the Eurogamer Article is close to correct. On this platform I'd be concerned with memory bandwidth. Only DDR3 for system/GPU memory pared with 32MB of "ESRAM" sounds troubling. 32MB of ESRAM is only really enough to do forward shading with MSAA using only 32-bits/pixel color with 2xMSAA at 1080p or 4xMSAA at 720p. Anything else to ESRAM would require tiling and resolves like on the Xbox360 (which would likely be a DMA copy on 720) or attempting to use the slow DDR3 as a render target. I'd bet most titles attempting deferred shading will be stuck at 720p with only poor post process AA (like FXAA). If this GPU is pre-GCN with a serious performance gap to PS4, then this next Xbox will act like a boat anchor, dragging down the min-spec target for cross-platform next-generation games."

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    Ovviamente si tratta di una cazzo di twittata nel primo caso e di un'opinione personale basata sui rumor nel secondo....ma essendo di due personaggi abbastanza conosciuti, i forum si sono completamente infiammati XD
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    Io mi sto già sfavando con sti rumor, spero organizzino presto degli eventi dedicati per presentare le nuove console e facciano vedere dei giochi all'E3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bortas
    Un minimo di coerenza perfavore, poi con dei rigirii di termini degni dei poeti futuristi o dadaisti, presto faremo dei post dove uno scriverà "Frush Frush" e l'altro per dargli contro "Bang Bang"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagnar View Post
    Io mi sto già sfavando con sti rumor, spero organizzino presto degli eventi dedicati per presentare le nuove console e facciano vedere dei giochi all'E3.
    Ma infatti la cosa divertente non sono i rumor in sè, ma lo splash damage che fanno nei forum
    Flame AoE

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    Possono avere tutte le spec fighe del mondo, ma contano i giochi e la loro giocabilità.
    (reply liberamente ispirato al video sulla GRAFICAHHHH)
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    PG dei giochi vari in spoiler
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kahvirel View Post
    Ma infatti la cosa divertente non sono i rumor in sè, ma lo splash damage che fanno nei forum
    Flame AoE
    Un po' come pisciare sull'entrata di un formicaio e divertirsi nel vedere le formiche correre impazzite.

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    Mh....boh?!...A me un paio di robe risultano diverse.....cmq è il thread dei rumors, quindi here we go.

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    http://www.vgleaks.com/world-exclusive-orbis-unveiled/

    LIVERPOOL SOC

    Custom implementation of AMD Fusion APU Arquitecture (Accelerated Processing Unit)
    Provides good performance with low power consumtion
    Integrated CPU and GPU
    Considerably bigger and more powerful than AMD’s other APUs



    liverpool

    CPU:

    Orbis contains eight Jaguar cores at 1.6 Ghz, arranged as two “clusters”
    Each cluster contains 4 cores and a shared 2MB L2 cache
    256-bit SIMD operations, 128-bit SIMD ALU
    SSE up to SSE4, as well as Advanced Vector Extensions (AVX)
    One hardware thread per core
    Decodes, executes and retires at up to two intructions/cycle
    Out of order execution
    Per-core dedicated L1-I and L1-D cache (32Kb each)
    Two pipes per core yield 12,8 GFlops performance
    102.4 GFlops for system



    GPU:

    GPU is based on AMD’s “R10XX” (Southern Islands) architecture
    DirectX 11.1+ feature set
    Liverpool is an enhanced version of the architecture
    18 Compute Units (CUs)
    Hardware balanced at 14 CUs
    Shared 512 KB of read/write L2 cache
    800 Mhz
    1.843 Tflops, 922 GigaOps/s
    Dual shader engines
    18 texture units
    8 Render backends



    Memory:

    4 GB unified system memory, 176 GB/s
    3.5 available to games (estimate)



    Storage:

    - High speed Blu-ray drive

    single layer (25 GB) or dual layer (50 GB) discs
    Partial constant angular velocity (PCAV)
    Outer half of disc 6x (27 MB/s)
    Inner half varies, 3.3x to 6x



    - Internal mass storage

    One SKU at launch: 500 GB HDD
    There may also be a Flash drive SKU in the future



    Networking:

    1 Gb/s Ethernet, 802.11b/g/n WIFI, and Bluetooth



    Peripherals:

    Evolved Dualshock controller
    Dual Camera
    Move controller



    Extra:

    Audio Processor (ACP)
    Video encode and decode (VCE/UVD) units
    Display ScanOut Engine (DCE)
    Zlib Decompression Hardware



    All this info is subject to change in the future by Sony.

    So, we have a new technical war between Durango and Orbis. Which one will be better? Discuss.

    We will give more detailed information about each component in future articles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [Crilin] View Post
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