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    Default ranger temp, need opinioni

    all'inizio volevo usare champ bow e lw mainhand, poi non mi piaceva molto il risultato e ho provato a farlo con fool e champ weapon mainhand

    stavo ponderando se fosse ancora il caso di usare lw, visto che cmq hiddati le hanno tutte cappata da spell, + res dei cl + eventualmente aom/em(quindi si parla di minimo 36res)

    con pierce naturale avrei malus vs inf/sb/hunter e credo pure scout(non son sicuro di scout non ricordo) quindi sono minimo 36 res(39 con gsv) + eventuale pd di hunter/scout.

    x voi è na cazzata non switchare ma stare fissi a 1 tipo di danno solo, considerando appunto che ora ci sono res elementali molto + alte?

    e anche opinioni sul temp please


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    Con: 76 Pie: 0 Power: 0
    Dex: 95 Cha: 0
    Qui: 43 Emp: 0

    Resists

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    Cold: 27 Matter: 29 Thrust: 27
    Heat: 22 Spirit: 31 Slash: 27

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    6 Recurve Bow

    11 Stealth

    6 Blades

    10 Piercing

    11 Celtic Dual

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    24 Str

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    Effect 6: 2 All Melee Skill Bonus
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
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    Gem 1: 13 Dexterity - 99 imperfect Vapor Essence
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    Head
    Name: wh
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    Effect 2: 5 Fatigue
    Effect 3: 10 AF Bonus
    Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
    Effect 5: 5 Spirit Resist
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    Effect 7: 5 Matter Resist
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
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    Gem 1: 28 Quickness - 99 perfect Airy Essence
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    Gem 3: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 flawed Icy War Spell Stone
    Gem 4: 16 Constitution - 99 polished Earthen Essence
    Utility: 64.33

    Hands
    Name: mariasha
    Level: 51 Quality: 100
    AF: Bonus:
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    Effect 2: 3 Archery Speed Bonus
    Effect 3: 4 Crush Resist
    Effect 4: 4 Thrust Resist
    Effect 5: 4 Slash Resist
    Effect 6: 3 Archery Range Bonus
    Effect 7: 4 Heat Resist
    Effect 8: 4 Cold Resist
    Effect 9: 4 Energy Resist
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    Gem 1: 22 Constitution - 99 precious Earthen Essence
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    Right Hand
    Name: champ ranger
    Level: 51 Quality: 100
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    Effect 2: 7 Strength
    Effect 3: 9 Dexterity
    Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
    Effect 5: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
    Effect 6: 4 Style Damage Bonus
    Effect 7: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
    Utility: 30.67

    Left Hand
    Name: blade shadow
    Level: 51 Quality: 94
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    Effect 1: 4 Piercing
    Effect 2: 10 Spirit Resist
    Effect 3: 36 Hits
    Effect 4: 8 Strength Cap Increase
    Effect 5: 8 Dexterity Cap Increase
    Effect 6: Empty
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
    Utility: 49.00

    Ranged
    Name: fool
    Level: 51 Quality: 94
    DPS: Bonus:
    Effect 1: 18 Quickness
    Effect 2: 18 Dexterity
    Effect 3: 3 Archery Speed Bonus
    Effect 4: 5 Recurve Bow
    Effect 5: 3 Archery Damage Bonus
    Effect 6: 3 Archery Range Bonus
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
    Utility: 49.00

    Neck
    Name: soa
    Level: 51 Quality:
    Bonus:
    Effect 1: 10 Crush Resist
    Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
    Effect 3: 10 Body Resist
    Effect 4: 10 Spirit Resist
    Effect 5: Empty
    Effect 6: Empty
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
    Utility: 80.00

    Cloak
    Name: som
    Level: 51 Quality:
    Bonus:
    Effect 1: 3 Stealth
    Effect 2: 15 Strength
    Effect 3: 15 Quickness
    Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
    Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
    Effect 6: Empty
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
    Utility: 35.00

    Jewel
    Name: harpy
    Level: 51 Quality:
    Bonus:
    Effect 1: 44 Hits
    Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
    Effect 3: 6 Cold Resist
    Effect 4: 6 Matter Resist
    Effect 5: 6 Heat Resist
    Effect 6: Empty
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
    Utility: 59.00

    Belt
    Name: malamis
    Level: 51 Quality:
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    Effect 1: 21 Strength
    Effect 2: 21 Dexterity
    Effect 3: 7 Strength Cap Increase
    Effect 4: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
    Effect 5: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
    Effect 6: Empty
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
    Utility: 28.00

    Right Ring
    Name: amanita
    Level: 51 Quality:
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    Effect 2: 6 Matter Resist
    Effect 3: 6 Spirit Resist
    Effect 4: 6 Energy Resist
    Effect 5: 6 Thrust Resist
    Effect 6: Empty
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
    Utility: 60.00

    Left Ring
    Name: ring of dances
    Level: 51 Quality:
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    Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
    Effect 2: 3 Stealth
    Effect 3: 15 Strength
    Effect 4: 5 Crush Resist
    Effect 5: 5 Slash Resist
    Effect 6: Empty
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
    Utility: 55.00

    Right Wrist
    Name: ebon hide
    Level: 51 Quality:
    Bonus:
    Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
    Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
    Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
    Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
    Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
    Effect 6: Empty
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
    Utility: 60.00

    Left Wrist
    Name: ebon hide
    Level: 51 Quality:
    Bonus:
    Effect 1: 6 Matter Resist
    Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
    Effect 3: 6 Body Resist
    Effect 4: 6 Cold Resist
    Effect 5: 6 Slash Resist
    Effect 6: Empty
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
    Utility: 60.00

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    è un ottimo tp indubbiamente, hai tutti gli arty e res tutte cappate... si puo fare di meglio solo con oggetti molto difficilmente reperibili


    mi ponevo anch'io il tuo stesso quesito... andare di perfo su hiddati è disastroso sulla carta, 36 di res più eventuale pd (di hunter e scout)... pero c'è quel 4%melee e 4%style che fa gola

    ci devo ragionare un po sopra ho ripreso da poco e ho le idee arrugginite ^^



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    io stavo pensando di andare con perfo naturale perchè appunto res heat/cold ora sono molto ma molto + alte, la maggior parte di hunter/scout(vabbeh che scout da solo non lo becco mai, e se lo beccassi in melee 80% me lo magno) avrebbe em/aom x contrastare lo strapotere delle lw.

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    provato a fare versione con golden spear/cw offhand

    perdo 8dex overcap(che sarebbe tipo 5/6dmg in + direi), prendo doppio debuff thrust, arrivo a 10 melee speed, 8 style dmg al posto di 4, 4melee dmg che c'era già

    perdo 5cold e 5spirit res, prendo 4hits in + e pierce arriva a 11(era 10 nel primo)

    visto che sono ibrido a maggior ragione devo contare sulle cariche di oggetti se mi attaccano di melee, avrei winged helm som e battler di back, nel primo temp pensavo di prendere la charge con hp/end regen ma qui non ne vale la pena

    che ne dite?

    temp con gs/cw

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    Stats

    Str: 104 Int: 0 Hits: 200
    Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
    Dex: 95 Cha: 0
    Qui: 47 Emp: 0

    Resists

    Body: 28 Energy: 15 (5) Crush: 31 (5)
    Cold: 22 Matter: 29 Thrust: 27
    Heat: 22 Spirit: 21 Slash: 34

    Skills

    6 Recurve Bow

    11 Stealth

    2 Blades

    11 Celtic Dual

    11 Piercing

    Focus

    Cap Increases

    12 Dex

    17 Str

    Other Bonuses

    4 Melee Damage Bonus

    8 Style Damage Bonus

    5 Fatigue

    11 Melee Speed Bonus

    3 Archery Speed Bonus

    3 Archery Range Bonus

    20 AF Bonus
    Last edited by AceGentile; 29th November 2005 at 21:57.

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    susu, allora?

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    Str: 104
    Dex: 95

    Cap Increases
    12 Dex
    17 Str

    qual'è quello giusto???

    btw res un po schifate, meglio l'altro



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    i gli overcap son giusti, xo sfondo con oggetti.

    boh a me quasi piace di + questo, perdo 5cold, res superfondamentali niente di altro a parte 1 po di spirit ma cappo melee speed e 4 style dmg in +

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakunin
    ci devo ragionare un po sopra ho ripreso da poco e ho le idee arrugginite ^^
    Ho quasi finito di rifare il mio TP per il 7l0....ma ti accolgo anche prima a braccia aperte

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    Io alle Lw nn rinuncerei fosse in te...., cmq come tp credo sia meglio il secondo

    Se ti puo' essere utile posso postare il tp del ranger che ho appena comprato su Galahad..., ha oggetti un po difficili ma e' davvero uber

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    cosa intendi x difficili

    cmq mostra va

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    Ring of heavens..... , spe mo che devo loggare e mettere gli item nel db d sc

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    vabeh ma su hibs è na cazzata farmarlo

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    Tie' pezza

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    Con: 73 Pie: 0 Power: 0
    Dex: 122 Cha: 0
    Qui: 63 Emp: 0

    Resists

    Body: 25 Energy: 0 Crush: 28 (2)
    Cold: 25 Matter: 11 Thrust: 23
    Heat: 22 Spirit: 26 (5) Slash: 27 (3)

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    11 Celtic Dual

    12 Stealth

    11 Piercing

    4 Blades

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    25 Dex

    7 Qui

    23 Str

    10 AF

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    9 Melee Speed Bonus

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    Gem 3: 16 Quickness - 99 polished Airy Essence
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    Effect 6: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
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    Gem 3: 4 Piercing - 99 flawed Dusty War Spell Stone
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    Effect 6: Empty
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
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    Effect 2: 8 Cold Resist
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    Effect 5: Empty
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    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
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    Name: paedrian
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    Effect 4: 10 Spirit Resist
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    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
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    Cloak
    Name: som
    Level: 51 Quality:
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    Effect 2: 15 Strength
    Effect 3: 15 Quickness
    Effect 4: 5 Fatigue
    Effect 5: 10 AF Cap Increase
    Effect 6: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
    Utility: 35.00

    Jewel
    Name: harpy
    Level: 51 Quality:
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    Effect 2: 6 Cold Resist
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    Effect 4: 6 Matter Resist
    Effect 5: 44 Hits
    Effect 6: Empty
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
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    Belt
    Name: twisted malamis
    Level: 51 Quality:
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    Effect 2: 24 Dexterity
    Effect 3: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
    Effect 4: 8 Strength Cap Increase
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    Effect 6: Empty
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
    Utility: 31.00

    Right Ring
    Name: heavens
    Level: 51 Quality:
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    Effect 3: 6 Spirit Resist
    Effect 4: 10 Strength Cap Increase
    Effect 5: Empty
    Effect 6: Empty
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
    Utility: 38.00

    Left Ring
    Name: rod
    Level: 51 Quality:
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    Effect 3: 12 Dexterity
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    Name: blackened
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    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
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    Name: cyclone
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    Effect 3: 10 Thrust Resist
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    Effect 6: Empty
    Effect 7: Empty
    Effect 8: Empty
    Effect 9: Empty
    Effect 10: Empty
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    Puo' essere che ci sia qualche piccola imprecisione(ho fretta e nn posso riguardare bene), ma agi da buffato va a 250

    Mettendo gs+croc dagger ( e a breve crocco/gs+cw pierce) si cappano i bonus toa e si cappa anche quel thrust che altrimenti sarebbe a 23%.

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    uhm boh essendo melee io proverei a schiaffarci il + hits possibile, nn c'è 1 qualche modo x aumentarli?

    energy 0 se ti becchi gente brava con sun weapons ti fa millemila dmg (vedi cili che ora sul nuovo sb tra i miliardi di armi che ha usa anche le sun swords )

    della serie a rr4LX si è mangiato rackir(ns rr11)

    edit ma perchè non lo specchi ibrido, molto meglio imo. x me il melee ranger è 1 ottima classe da giocare, tanka da dio e tutto ma dipende tantissimo da artefatti e cariche. ibrido almeno fai qualcosa di arco, e cmq in melee ti difendi (tanto x farti 1esempio, xyrin )
    Last edited by AceGentile; 30th November 2005 at 14:42.

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    Mm ba, faro' prove su sto ranger per vedere come farlo rullare al top, l'ho preso da poco (ci avro' fatto 150k) e devo ancora iniziare a padroneggiarlo, so manco Cl2 pz-.-, per la spec definitiva quindi si vedra'.

    Situazione hits sul melee ranger: bah, io nn ne ho veramente idea se si possono inserire item che li boostino, indi rimando a gente piu' esperta sull argomento

    Situazione armi BoS (che nn sta a zero ma a 10 data dal CL): mah, nn mi hanno mai fatto paura, ne al 4l, ne ora che sn 9l.., di gente forte che le usa nn ne homai trovata.., giusto Civl nei suoi millemila switch..., pero' nemmeno lui (che considero il miglior hiddato nella storia) mi ha impensierito, abbiam fatto diversi duel (li vedrai nel video ) e la differenza nn e' mai stata fatta dalla bos weapon, che nemmeno credo abbia mai usato vs me.

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