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    Default MoM e augment int

    secondo voi servono? cioe ora ho respeccato moc3 togliendole completamente (ho wp4 moc3 dex2 purge2) e mi sembra ke i danni siano cambiati di nn moltissimo (50 danni x dd) ke ne pensate?

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    mah io int la terrei... se nn altro x il power pool ne consumi un'infinità

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    Per i danni le più efficaci sono in ordine:
    aug. dex - mom - wp - aug. acuity

    Ci sono delle tabelle postate tempo fa sulle vn che dimostrano questo cifre alla mano. Non chiedermi dove perchè non me lo ricordo. COnsidera che l'unica che alza il cap dei danni è mom e l'unica che alza il pow è aug acuity. La progressione migliore è alzarle 1-1-1-1, 2-1-1-1, 2-2-1-1 e via così.
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    io avevo mom4 e int3 portandole a 0 perdo 50 danni. (15 di int 35 di mom). ora sto facendo delle prove prima nn avevo proprio moc quindi mi vengono queste configurazioni in mente x rr8

    - dex2 wp4 purge2 moc3 mof1
    - dex2 wp4 mom4 int3 purge2 mof1
    - dex2 wp4 moc2 mom3 purge2 int2 mof1
    - dex2 wp4 moc1 mom4 purge2 int2 mof1

    ditemi voi se vi vengono in mente altre conf.
    Last edited by Epilol; 21st February 2005 at 02:35.

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    prendi lifter 5 e strenght 5 imo
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    la seconda e la terza sono 1 skerzo spero

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    la seconda l'avevo fino a settimana scorsa. ottima 8v8 anke se difficile da usare, pessima in solo (danni veramente buoni cmq). la terza xke fa skifo? cioe la usano molte sorc moc2

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    scusa intendevo la terza e la quarta
    bo sinceramente il moc 2 nn lo capisco... ripensandoci magari la 4 è + passabile pensando a un 8v8 con il moc1-interrupter amnesia e cazzi vari anke se sinceramente mi piacerebbe d + così: dex2 wp4 mom3 int3 moc1 purge2 mof1 ranging power1 (o un'altra attiva tipo ichore1 o mcl1 dipende da cosa t serve).
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    Toh ti estrapolo una chat dei nostri Sorci di gilda postata sul nostro forum.... forse è cio' che cerchi:

    Qui di seguito ti metto la tabella riguardante la % in cui le R.A. influenzano il DMG magico e le relative spiegazioni del TL che le ha post " ti ho gia evidenziato io in rosso le combinazioni migliori ":

    For WP I assume you can get 10 to 50% crits, so 30% average.
    For AA I assume 1% damage per 5 points of intelligence

    Level for level MoM is still the champ, but it will now be worth it to work in some WP and/or AA before you cap MoM.

    For example:
    Assume you have 10 points to spend on damage improvement
    You buy MoM3 to get 7%, or
    your could buy MOM2, WP2, and AA1 to get 7.5% and have one point left over.

    You have six choices (none, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5) for each of those 3 RAs.
    That makes 3^6 = 216 possibilities.

    The following table shows these 216 possibilities.
    It is sorted first by cost (0 to 102 RSP) then by total bonus. [edit typo]

    Reading from the table you will see that there are 5 ways to spend 14 RSP. These can get you as much as 9.7% and as little as 7.5% average damage bonus.

    The high end of the table is probably of no real use since noone will invest solely in damage, but I did not want to limit your info.

    Let me know if this is useful to show the data this way.

    Cost _ bonus _____ MoM _ WP _ AA
    0 ____ 0.0% _____ 0 ____ 0 ___ 0
    1 ____ 2.0% _____ 1 ____ 0 ___ 0
    1 ____ 0.9% _____ 0 ____ 1 ___ 0
    1 ____ 0.9% _____ 0 ____ 1 ___ 0
    1 ____ 0.8% _____ 0 ____ 0 ___ 1
    2 ____ 2.9% _____ 1 ____ 1 ___ 0
    2 ____ 2.8% _____ 1 ____ 0 ___ 1
    2 ____ 1.7% _____ 0 ____ 1 ___ 1
    2 ____ 1.7% _____ 0 ____ 1 ___ 1
    3 ____ 3.7% _____ 1 ____ 1 ___ 1
    4 ____ 4.0% _____ 2 ____ 0 ___ 0
    4 ____ 2.4% _____ 0 ____ 0 ___ 2
    5 ____ 4.9% _____ 2 ____ 1 ___ 0
    5 ____ 4.8% _____ 2 ____ 0 ___ 1
    5 ____ 4.7% _____ 1 ____ 2 ___ 0
    5 ____ 4.4% _____ 1 ____ 0 ___ 2
    5 ____ 3.3% _____ 0 ____ 1 ___ 2
    5 ____ 3.3% _____ 0 ____ 1 ___ 2

    6 ____ 5.7% _____ 2 ____ 1 ___ 1
    6 ____ 5.5% _____ 1 ____ 2 ___ 1
    6 ____ 5.3% _____ 1 ____ 1 ___ 2
    8 ____ 6.7% _____ 2 ____ 2 ___ 0
    8 ____ 6.4% _____ 2 ____ 0 ___ 2
    9 ____ 7.5% _____ 2 ____ 2 ___ 1
    9 ____ 7.3% _____ 2 ____ 1 ___ 2
    9 ____ 7.1% _____ 1 ____ 2 ___ 2

    10 ____ 7.0% _____ 3 ____ 0 ___ 0
    10 ____ 5.1% _____ 0 ____ 3 ___ 0
    10 ____ 4.4% _____ 0 ____ 0 ___ 3
    11 ____ 7.9% _____ 3 ____ 1 ___ 0
    11 ____ 7.8% _____ 3 ____ 0 ___ 1
    11 ____ 7.1% _____ 1 ____ 3 ___ 0
    11 ____ 6.4% _____ 1 ____ 0 ___ 3
    11 ____ 5.9% _____ 0 ____ 3 ___ 1
    11 ____ 5.3% _____ 0 ____ 1 ___ 3
    11 ____ 5.3% _____ 0 ____ 1 ___ 3
    12 ____ 8.7% _____ 3 ____ 1 ___ 1
    12 ____ 7.9% _____ 1 ____ 3 ___ 1
    12 ____ 7.3% _____ 1 ____ 1 ___ 3
    12 ____ 9.1% _____ 2 ____ 2 ___ 2
    14 ____ 9.7% _____ 3 ____ 2 ___ 0
    14 ____ 9.4% _____ 3 ____ 0 ___ 2
    14 ____ 9.1% _____ 2 ____ 3 ___ 0
    14 ____ 8.4% _____ 2 ____ 0 ___ 3
    14 ____ 7.5% _____ 0 ____ 3 ___ 2

    15 ____ 10.5% _____ 3 ____ 2 ___ 1
    15 ____ 10.3% _____ 3 ____ 1 ___ 2
    15 ____ 9.9% _____ 2 ____ 3 ___ 1
    15 ____ 9.5% _____ 1 ____ 3 ___ 2
    15 ____ 9.3% _____ 2 ____ 1 ___ 3
    15 ____ 9.1% _____ 1 ____ 2 ___ 3
    18 ____ 12.1% _____ 3 ____ 2 ___ 2
    18 ____ 11.5% _____ 2 ____ 3 ___ 2
    18 ____ 11.1% _____ 2 ____ 2 ___ 3

    20 ____ 11.0% _____ 4 ____ 0 ___ 0
    20 ____ 8.1% _____ 0 ____ 4 ___ 0
    20 ____ 6.8% _____ 0 ____ 0 ___ 4
    20 ____ 12.1% _____ 3 ____ 3 ___ 0
    20 ____ 11.4% _____ 3 ____ 0 ___ 3
    20 ____ 9.5% _____ 0 ____ 3 ___ 3
    21 ____ 11.9% _____ 4 ____ 1 ___ 0
    21 ____ 11.8% _____ 4 ____ 0 ___ 1
    21 ____ 10.1% _____ 1 ____ 4 ___ 0
    21 ____ 8.9% _____ 0 ____ 4 ___ 1
    21 ____ 8.8% _____ 1 ____ 0 ___ 4
    21 ____ 7.7% _____ 0 ____ 1 ___ 4
    21 ____ 7.7% _____ 0 ____ 1 ___ 4
    21 ____ 12.9% _____ 3 ____ 3 ___ 1
    21 ____ 12.3% _____ 3 ____ 1 ___ 3
    21 ____ 11.5% _____ 1 ____ 3 ___ 3
    22 ____ 12.7% _____ 4 ____ 1 ___ 1
    22 ____ 10.9% _____ 1 ____ 4 ___ 1
    22 ____ 9.7% _____ 1 ____ 1 ___ 4
    24 ____ 13.7% _____ 4 ____ 2 ___ 0
    24 ____ 13.4% _____ 4 ____ 0 ___ 2
    24 ____ 12.1% _____ 2 ____ 4 ___ 0
    24 ____ 10.8% _____ 2 ____ 0 ___ 4
    24 ____ 10.5% _____ 0 ____ 4 ___ 2
    24 ____ 14.5% _____ 3 ____ 3 ___ 2
    24 ____ 14.1% _____ 3 ____ 2 ___ 3
    24 ____ 13.5% _____ 2 ____ 3 ___ 3

    25 ____ 14.5% _____ 4 ____ 2 ___ 1
    25 ____ 14.3% _____ 4 ____ 1 ___ 2
    25 ____ 12.9% _____ 2 ____ 4 ___ 1
    25 ____ 12.5% _____ 1 ____ 4 ___ 2
    25 ____ 11.7% _____ 2 ____ 1 ___ 4
    25 ____ 11.5% _____ 1 ____ 2 ___ 4
    28 ____ 16.1% _____ 4 ____ 2 ___ 2
    28 ____ 14.5% _____ 2 ____ 4 ___ 2
    28 ____ 13.5% _____ 2 ____ 2 ___ 4

    30 ____ 16.1% _____ 4 ____ 3 ___ 0
    30 ____ 15.4% _____ 4 ____ 0 ___ 3
    30 ____ 15.1% _____ 3 ____ 4 ___ 0
    30 ____ 13.8% _____ 3 ____ 0 ___ 4
    30 ____ 12.5% _____ 0 ____ 4 ___ 3
    30 ____ 11.9% _____ 0 ____ 3 ___ 4
    30 ____ 16.5% _____ 3 ____ 3 ___ 3
    31 ____ 16.9% _____ 4 ____ 3 ___ 1
    31 ____ 16.3% _____ 4 ____ 1 ___ 3
    31 ____ 15.9% _____ 3 ____ 4 ___ 1
    31 ____ 14.7% _____ 3 ____ 1 ___ 4
    31 ____ 14.5% _____ 1 ____ 4 ___ 3
    31 ____ 13.9% _____ 1 ____ 3 ___ 4
    34 ____ 15.0% _____ 5 ____ 0 ___ 0
    34 ____ 11.6% _____ 0 ____ 5 ___ 0
    34 ____ 9.6% _____ 0 ____ 0 ___ 5
    34 ____ 18.5% _____ 4 ____ 3 ___ 2
    34 ____ 18.1% _____ 4 ____ 2 ___ 3
    34 ____ 17.5% _____ 3 ____ 4 ___ 2
    34 ____ 16.5% _____ 3 ____ 2 ___ 4
    34 ____ 16.5% _____ 2 ____ 4 ___ 3
    34 ____ 15.9% _____ 2 ____ 3 ___ 4

    35 ____ 15.9% _____ 5 ____ 1 ___ 0
    35 ____ 15.8% _____ 5 ____ 0 ___ 1
    35 ____ 13.6% _____ 1 ____ 5 ___ 0
    35 ____ 12.4% _____ 0 ____ 5 ___ 1
    35 ____ 11.6% _____ 1 ____ 0 ___ 5
    35 ____ 10.5% _____ 0 ____ 1 ___ 5
    35 ____ 10.5% _____ 0 ____ 1 ___ 5
    36 ____ 16.7% _____ 5 ____ 1 ___ 1
    36 ____ 14.4% _____ 1 ____ 5 ___ 1
    36 ____ 12.5% _____ 1 ____ 1 ___ 5
    38 ____ 17.7% _____ 5 ____ 2 ___ 0
    38 ____ 17.4% _____ 5 ____ 0 ___ 2
    38 ____ 15.6% _____ 2 ____ 5 ___ 0
    38 ____ 14.0% _____ 0 ____ 5 ___ 2
    38 ____ 13.6% _____ 2 ____ 0 ___ 5
    39 ____ 18.5% _____ 5 ____ 2 ___ 1
    39 ____ 18.3% _____ 5 ____ 1 ___ 2
    39 ____ 16.4% _____ 2 ____ 5 ___ 1
    39 ____ 16.0% _____ 1 ____ 5 ___ 2
    39 ____ 14.5% _____ 2 ____ 1 ___ 5
    39 ____ 14.3% _____ 1 ____ 2 ___ 5

    40 ____ 19.1% _____ 4 ____ 4 ___ 0
    40 ____ 17.8% _____ 4 ____ 0 ___ 4
    40 ____ 14.9% _____ 0 ____ 4 ___ 4
    40 ____ 20.5% _____ 4 ____ 3 ___ 3
    40 ____ 19.5% _____ 3 ____ 4 ___ 3
    40 ____ 18.9% _____ 3 ____ 3 ___ 4
    41 ____ 19.9% _____ 4 ____ 4 ___ 1
    41 ____ 18.7% _____ 4 ____ 1 ___ 4
    41 ____ 16.9% _____ 1 ____ 4 ___ 4
    42 ____ 20.1% _____ 5 ____ 2 ___ 2
    42 ____ 18.0% _____ 2 ____ 5 ___ 2
    42 ____ 16.3% _____ 2 ____ 2 ___ 5
    44 ____ 20.1% _____ 5 ____ 3 ___ 0
    44 ____ 19.4% _____ 5 ____ 0 ___ 3
    44 ____ 18.6% _____ 3 ____ 5 ___ 0
    44 ____ 16.6% _____ 3 ____ 0 ___ 5
    44 ____ 16.0% _____ 0 ____ 5 ___ 3
    44 ____ 14.7% _____ 0 ____ 3 ___ 5
    44 ____ 21.5% _____ 4 ____ 4 ___ 2
    44 ____ 20.5% _____ 4 ____ 2 ___ 4
    44 ____ 18.9% _____ 2 ____ 4 ___ 4

    45 ____ 20.9% _____ 5 ____ 3 ___ 1
    45 ____ 20.3% _____ 5 ____ 1 ___ 3
    45 ____ 19.4% _____ 3 ____ 5 ___ 1
    45 ____ 18.0% _____ 1 ____ 5 ___ 3
    45 ____ 17.5% _____ 3 ____ 1 ___ 5
    45 ____ 16.7% _____ 1 ____ 3 ___ 5
    48 ____ 22.5% _____ 5 ____ 3 ___ 2
    48 ____ 22.1% _____ 5 ____ 2 ___ 3
    48 ____ 21.0% _____ 3 ____ 5 ___ 2
    48 ____ 20.0% _____ 2 ____ 5 ___ 3
    48 ____ 19.3% _____ 3 ____ 2 ___ 5
    48 ____ 18.7% _____ 2 ____ 3 ___ 5

    50 ____ 23.5% _____ 4 ____ 4 ___ 3
    50 ____ 22.9% _____ 4 ____ 3 ___ 4
    50 ____ 21.9% _____ 3 ____ 4 ___ 4
    54 ____ 23.1% _____ 5 ____ 4 ___ 0
    54 ____ 22.6% _____ 4 ____ 5 ___ 0
    54 ____ 21.8% _____ 5 ____ 0 ___ 4
    54 ____ 20.6% _____ 4 ____ 0 ___ 5
    54 ____ 18.4% _____ 0 ____ 5 ___ 4
    54 ____ 17.7% _____ 0 ____ 4 ___ 5
    54 ____ 24.5% _____ 5 ____ 3 ___ 3
    54 ____ 23.0% _____ 3 ____ 5 ___ 3
    54 ____ 21.7% _____ 3 ____ 3 ___ 5

    55 ____ 23.9% _____ 5 ____ 4 ___ 1
    55 ____ 23.4% _____ 4 ____ 5 ___ 1
    55 ____ 22.7% _____ 5 ____ 1 ___ 4
    55 ____ 21.5% _____ 4 ____ 1 ___ 5
    55 ____ 20.4% _____ 1 ____ 5 ___ 4
    55 ____ 19.7% _____ 1 ____ 4 ___ 5
    58 ____ 25.5% _____ 5 ____ 4 ___ 2
    58 ____ 25.0% _____ 4 ____ 5 ___ 2
    58 ____ 24.5% _____ 5 ____ 2 ___ 4
    58 ____ 23.3% _____ 4 ____ 2 ___ 5
    58 ____ 22.4% _____ 2 ____ 5 ___ 4
    58 ____ 21.7% _____ 2 ____ 4 ___ 5

    60 ____ 25.9% _____ 4 ____ 4 ___ 4
    64 ____ 27.5% _____ 5 ____ 4 ___ 3
    64 ____ 27.0% _____ 4 ____ 5 ___ 3
    64 ____ 26.9% _____ 5 ____ 3 ___ 4
    64 ____ 25.7% _____ 4 ____ 3 ___ 5
    64 ____ 25.4% _____ 3 ____ 5 ___ 4
    64 ____ 24.7% _____ 3 ____ 4 ___ 5
    68 ____ 26.6% _____ 5 ____ 5 ___ 0
    68 ____ 24.6% _____ 5 ____ 0 ___ 5
    68 ____ 21.2% _____ 0 ____ 5 ___ 5
    69 ____ 27.4% _____ 5 ____ 5 ___ 1
    69 ____ 25.5% _____ 5 ____ 1 ___ 5
    69 ____ 23.2% _____ 1 ____ 5 ___ 5

    72 ____ 29.0% _____ 5 ____ 5 ___ 2
    72 ____ 27.3% _____ 5 ____ 2 ___ 5
    72 ____ 25.2% _____ 2 ____ 5 ___ 5
    74 ____ 29.9% _____ 5 ____ 4 ___ 4
    74 ____ 29.4% _____ 4 ____ 5 ___ 4
    74 ____ 28.7% _____ 4 ____ 4 ___ 5
    78 ____ 31.0% _____ 5 ____ 5 ___ 3
    78 ____ 29.7% _____ 5 ____ 3 ___ 5
    78 ____ 28.2% _____ 3 ____ 5 ___ 5
    88 ____ 33.4% _____ 5 ____ 5 ___ 4
    88 ____ 32.7% _____ 5 ____ 4 ___ 5
    88 ____ 32.2% _____ 4 ____ 5 ___ 5
    102 ____ 36.2% _____ 5 ____ 5 ___ 5
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    grazie mille suppa mo me lo studio bene
    cmq ho deciso di andare mom3 int2 wp3 dex2 purge2 moc3 mof2 mi sembra davvero buono

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    ok x essere un setup veramente ottimo devo essere 9L8 e avere
    MoM4
    WP3
    AA2
    AD2
    MoF2
    MoC3
    Purge2
    LW1

    mi mancano solo 3 milioni di pr lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morboz
    ok x essere un setup veramente ottimo devo essere 9L8 e avere
    MoM4
    WP3
    AA2
    AD2
    MoF2
    MoC3
    Purge2
    LW1

    mi mancano solo 3 milioni di pr lol
    Conviene molto di piu' avere WP4 che MoM 4

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    IL danno medio ce l'hai piu alto con MoM4 piuttosto che WP4 se poi vuoi fare ioioio ho fatto 900 di dd allora meglio wp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hide
    IL danno medio ce l'hai piu alto con MoM4 piuttosto che WP4 se poi vuoi fare ioioio ho fatto 900 di dd allora meglio wp
    Per quanto mi riguarda preferisco avere un critico ogni 2/3 cast piuttosto che un danno medio di poco piu' elevato.MoM3 AA3 penso sia gia abbastanza.

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    anche io preferirei avere piu' chance di critico che avere un danno medio di qualche punto % in piu'. Se non altro che il critico ti puo' risolvere la situazione (i.e. segare il nemico prima che gli entri una cura).

    cmq tutto dipende dai RP che hai e da cos'altro ti serve per il tipo di gioko che fai.

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